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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5238316" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>So in 13 years the U.S. was directly responsible for about 16,000-17,000 civilian deaths?  I think the Russians have killed considerably more than that in Ukraine in 6 weeks.  And the second story concerned not bombings but sanctions put on Iraq in the 90's.  It isn't the policy of the U.S. to go directly after civilians.  Russia has waged a war of terror on civilians to try and break Ukraine's willingness to fight.  Any civilian deaths is tragic, but there's not an equivalence between what we did and they're doing.</p></blockquote><p></p>