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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Correcto" data-source="post: 5296411" data-attributes="member: 60631">No this is just what happens when religious folk see gays being embraced as individuals in their society and their religious morals as faulty.They value the strong man dictator that enforces what they view as god’s will on people. I’ve seen one of these idiots call Russia a bastion of democratic western values or something stupid like that on here when this broke out.It’s what happens when the right no longer believes america is a force for good in the world or that the world order is worth maintaining for future generations. Something the left agrees with whole heartedly. People start saying stupid things like Russia tries to avoid conflict. Russia avoids bigger conflict for sure, attacking Ukraine before it was a nato member shows Russia’s intent for European democracies and why there is a nato in the first place.</blockquote>