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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thebrownblob" data-source="post: 5593199" data-attributes="member: 60485">Russia  is not going to use nukes. Whether things go bad or not. At no point will Russia claim victory because there are no Victors here. These are too corrupt vile governments, controlling two countries that we don’t have any business in the middle of. Joe Biden is only there to cover his tracks. This is about as silly as us going to war in the Middle East to bring peace to nations that have been fighting each other for centuries, Ukraine and Russia have been doing something similar for hundreds of years. Russia is going to gain some territory. And then Ukraine will fight back for the next several decades. This is just more of the same in this region.</blockquote>