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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5750527" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Are you thinking if we take from the rich and give to the poor that there's enough to eliminate poverty? Could you please explain why we still have poverty in spite of programs that have spent, after adjusting for inflation, trillions since the 1960's? </p><p></p><p>Should we punish those who create jobs? I have a problem with those who make promises in exchange for my labor then turns out they never intended to keep those promises. But in general if a guy strives to start a business and works hard to make it successful, providing goods or services people want, and provides gainful employment to others, shouldn't he be rewarded? If you tax the producers too much and redistribute to non producers because that's "fair", pretty soon producers will never even try because what's the point? </p><p></p><p>People should be content with the results of the efforts they make. If you don't go to school and settle for jobs that don't require expertise, and that provide you with a place to live, food to eat, clothes to wear, a tv, phone, and car, anything else is gravy. If a person isn't satisfied with that, instead of looking to take away from those who strive more than they do they should learn to strive more too. It's the envy of those with nice things that's the true scourge of America.</p><p></p><p>I exist on little income thanks to my dad. My dad worked sun up to past sundown for decades and has nice things and a comfortable retirement. I can argue that he also benefited from buying a home in the 60's for by today's standards a pittance and was able to pay it off early because his income greatly increased with inflation in the 70's. Part of having nice things sometimes means being in the right place at the right time. I worry about young adults today trying to figure out how to buy a home at today's prices in a service economy. </p><p></p><p>And that's the crux of the matter. Today's economy has put wealth into fewer hands and a lot of people are realizing their education put them in debt without a lot of opportunity to pay it off and have the life they envisioned. So they look at those who are successful and think that's unfair and we should take his wealth away by taxation. So it boils down to envy. Again, a lot of business owners deserve scorn for how they treat employees. But as the Apostle Paul once wrote: "....for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5750527, member: 24302"] Are you thinking if we take from the rich and give to the poor that there's enough to eliminate poverty? Could you please explain why we still have poverty in spite of programs that have spent, after adjusting for inflation, trillions since the 1960's? Should we punish those who create jobs? I have a problem with those who make promises in exchange for my labor then turns out they never intended to keep those promises. But in general if a guy strives to start a business and works hard to make it successful, providing goods or services people want, and provides gainful employment to others, shouldn't he be rewarded? If you tax the producers too much and redistribute to non producers because that's "fair", pretty soon producers will never even try because what's the point? People should be content with the results of the efforts they make. If you don't go to school and settle for jobs that don't require expertise, and that provide you with a place to live, food to eat, clothes to wear, a tv, phone, and car, anything else is gravy. If a person isn't satisfied with that, instead of looking to take away from those who strive more than they do they should learn to strive more too. It's the envy of those with nice things that's the true scourge of America. I exist on little income thanks to my dad. My dad worked sun up to past sundown for decades and has nice things and a comfortable retirement. I can argue that he also benefited from buying a home in the 60's for by today's standards a pittance and was able to pay it off early because his income greatly increased with inflation in the 70's. Part of having nice things sometimes means being in the right place at the right time. I worry about young adults today trying to figure out how to buy a home at today's prices in a service economy. And that's the crux of the matter. Today's economy has put wealth into fewer hands and a lot of people are realizing their education put them in debt without a lot of opportunity to pay it off and have the life they envisioned. So they look at those who are successful and think that's unfair and we should take his wealth away by taxation. So it boils down to envy. Again, a lot of business owners deserve scorn for how they treat employees. But as the Apostle Paul once wrote: "....for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content." [/QUOTE]
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