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The Truth About Right to Work (for less) in Indiana
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<blockquote data-quote="hypocrisy" data-source="post: 932859" data-attributes="member: 9500"><p>Hi,</p><p></p><p>Thanks for coming in,</p><p></p><p>Sit right here, we have this nice recliner made of the finest Corinthian leather just for you,</p><p></p><p>Is the music ok? Let me dim the lights a little,</p><p></p><p>How about a scented candle? Tropical coconut OK?</p><p></p><p>There, that’s nice now isn’t it?</p><p></p><p>This is Cierra, she’ll be your masseuse this evening,</p><p></p><p>And we also have Tasia, she’s your manicurist,</p><p></p><p>Those hands can get a little rough from those boxes, no?!</p><p></p><p>Here, let me get those boots off for you,</p><p></p><p>Ah, let’s get the stress worked out in these peds,</p><p></p><p>How’s that feel? Good? I’m glad,</p><p></p><p>Soooo,</p><p></p><p>…</p><p></p><p>How would you feel about joining the Union?</p><p></p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------</p><p> </p><p>All this nonsense about ‘freedom’ and ‘tyranny’. Give me a break.</p><p></p><p>You can’t pick the clothes you want to wear on the job yet no one cries for freedom.</p><p></p><p>Upstate can’t wear those high heels like he does at home, yet you don’t see him crying for freedom.</p><p></p><p>You can’t even grow a beard without making a federal case out it, yet no one cries for freedom.</p><p></p><p>Yet when an organization that was freely invited to represent the employees by the employer expects you to either join or pay for the privilege of working under our Contract it’s all of a sudden an assault on freedom.</p><p></p><p>Then there is the audacity to suggest that now Unions will have to work harder to get members, as if this is some sort of competitive market. How? By giving free massages? Unreal. So let me get this straight: I’m a driver, and a steward, and have a life. But now you want me to be a salesman too? Oh, you expect someone from “the Union” to do it? I am the Union. You are the Union. We have two paid organizers at my Hall that handle organizing entire workplaces. I don’t think they have the time in their day to hold everyone’s hand to get them to sign individually in workplaces that are already Unionized. Even if they did, that’s not what they are being paid for. Hey members, we need a team of 100 organizers just to handle signing up the whiners. You guys OK with having your dues go up 10x? What did you expect them to do this for free?</p><p></p><p>If RTW was truly about choice and not about eroding Unions, there would be provisions in there to make it easier to Unionize. This is why I have such a vitriolic reaction to RTW and especially members or agency payers who buy into this crap. You want RTW? Then give me equal time, equal access, and card check. If BofA wants to set up a booth inside the yard or even inside the hub, they get the golden key. Me? I have to wait at the gate, getting up early to catch the early risers and trying to hustle in to make my start time. Inside I have to try to catch you in the break room if I want to approach you about membership. They even allowed a local gym to set up a table right outside the office, a complete violation of UPS’ non-solicitation policy; but if I want to wear a Union pin or shirt around the hub I catch hell.</p><p></p><p>Oh sure, the Contract says they are supposed to allow us time at orientations and notify us of when these occur. They conveniently forget and there is no penalty (add that into your RTW legislation). If I do get time, it’s limited to 10 minutes and I’m no Billy May’s.</p><p></p><p>Do any of you have any idea how difficult and expensive it is to Unionize a workplace today? Of course you do, and RTW is just designed to make it more expensive and harder to do.</p><p></p><p>I’ve worked in RTW and Union Shop States and I can tell you that the Union Shop is better. At best, you’re going to get half of your BU to sign up. If you’re lucky you’ll get some hard core transfers from Union Shop States that will assist you in organizing. The Mormon’s won’t join (just as they wouldn’t strike) as they already have to give 10% to their church. You’ll find your membership increases as you get higher up in the ranks (Feeders has the highest) but you’ll still get some idiot who wants to withdraw when a grievance doesn’t go his way and gets all his buddy’s to go along. The Company will play games with your Union dues, double dipping and claiming ignorance which further builds animosity causing more withdrawals. So we’ll have to do more with less and the membership will suffer because of it. Such a deal.</p><p></p><p>So put your money where your mouth is RTW-ers. Give some of that freedom you supposedly treasure to the Union and make it a fair playing field. It's all about being fair isn't it? Give us equal access, card check, and allow me to advertise. All you are doing now is taking away.</p><p></p><p>No matter how you frame it, no matter what crap you spew, RTW is just about destroying Unions not some idealistic freedom protecting movement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hypocrisy, post: 932859, member: 9500"] Hi, Thanks for coming in, Sit right here, we have this nice recliner made of the finest Corinthian leather just for you, Is the music ok? Let me dim the lights a little, How about a scented candle? Tropical coconut OK? There, that’s nice now isn’t it? This is Cierra, she’ll be your masseuse this evening, And we also have Tasia, she’s your manicurist, Those hands can get a little rough from those boxes, no?! Here, let me get those boots off for you, Ah, let’s get the stress worked out in these peds, How’s that feel? Good? I’m glad, Soooo, … How would you feel about joining the Union? -------------------------------------------------------------- All this nonsense about ‘freedom’ and ‘tyranny’. Give me a break. You can’t pick the clothes you want to wear on the job yet no one cries for freedom. Upstate can’t wear those high heels like he does at home, yet you don’t see him crying for freedom. You can’t even grow a beard without making a federal case out it, yet no one cries for freedom. Yet when an organization that was freely invited to represent the employees by the employer expects you to either join or pay for the privilege of working under our Contract it’s all of a sudden an assault on freedom. Then there is the audacity to suggest that now Unions will have to work harder to get members, as if this is some sort of competitive market. How? By giving free massages? Unreal. So let me get this straight: I’m a driver, and a steward, and have a life. But now you want me to be a salesman too? Oh, you expect someone from “the Union” to do it? I am the Union. You are the Union. We have two paid organizers at my Hall that handle organizing entire workplaces. I don’t think they have the time in their day to hold everyone’s hand to get them to sign individually in workplaces that are already Unionized. Even if they did, that’s not what they are being paid for. Hey members, we need a team of 100 organizers just to handle signing up the whiners. You guys OK with having your dues go up 10x? What did you expect them to do this for free? If RTW was truly about choice and not about eroding Unions, there would be provisions in there to make it easier to Unionize. This is why I have such a vitriolic reaction to RTW and especially members or agency payers who buy into this crap. You want RTW? Then give me equal time, equal access, and card check. If BofA wants to set up a booth inside the yard or even inside the hub, they get the golden key. Me? I have to wait at the gate, getting up early to catch the early risers and trying to hustle in to make my start time. Inside I have to try to catch you in the break room if I want to approach you about membership. They even allowed a local gym to set up a table right outside the office, a complete violation of UPS’ non-solicitation policy; but if I want to wear a Union pin or shirt around the hub I catch hell. Oh sure, the Contract says they are supposed to allow us time at orientations and notify us of when these occur. They conveniently forget and there is no penalty (add that into your RTW legislation). If I do get time, it’s limited to 10 minutes and I’m no Billy May’s. Do any of you have any idea how difficult and expensive it is to Unionize a workplace today? Of course you do, and RTW is just designed to make it more expensive and harder to do. I’ve worked in RTW and Union Shop States and I can tell you that the Union Shop is better. At best, you’re going to get half of your BU to sign up. If you’re lucky you’ll get some hard core transfers from Union Shop States that will assist you in organizing. The Mormon’s won’t join (just as they wouldn’t strike) as they already have to give 10% to their church. You’ll find your membership increases as you get higher up in the ranks (Feeders has the highest) but you’ll still get some idiot who wants to withdraw when a grievance doesn’t go his way and gets all his buddy’s to go along. The Company will play games with your Union dues, double dipping and claiming ignorance which further builds animosity causing more withdrawals. So we’ll have to do more with less and the membership will suffer because of it. Such a deal. So put your money where your mouth is RTW-ers. Give some of that freedom you supposedly treasure to the Union and make it a fair playing field. It's all about being fair isn't it? Give us equal access, card check, and allow me to advertise. All you are doing now is taking away. No matter how you frame it, no matter what crap you spew, RTW is just about destroying Unions not some idealistic freedom protecting movement. [/QUOTE]
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