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<blockquote data-quote="menotyou" data-source="post: 934607" data-attributes="member: 24535"><p>I am not in this argument. You two are. I only point out that I am neither dishonest nor unintelligent. </p><p></p><p>I have had many meetings with our Division Labor Manager, all of which were conducted reasonably. Details? Sorry. They were closed door meetings. I have never been disciplined by him for any of the comments I have made. </p><p>I am respected by them, as they have told my BA that many times. They still ask how I am doing through my center manager, whom I hear from weekly. Does he have to do this? No. It's a choice he makes. Why? He has stated, along with my on-car, I am sorely missed and they want me back ASAP. Every week. Gee, I guess I am not the thorn I have been purported to be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AS far as RTW, I am not well versed in the subject. I have little knowledge on the subject, so I choose not to join in.</p><p>My father and I have had discussions on it. I choose to keep those private at this time. </p><p></p><p>I do know unions were started to protect workers from tyrannical employers. UPS has become that. Now, more than ever, something is needed to protect us. Is it the union? Well, we have nothing else right now. Am I proud of the teamsters and what they have done for us? Not lately. Again, that makes it hard for me to defend them right now.</p><p></p><p>Crowbar is an individual. He is making his own statements. He has his own opinion.</p><p>He thinks you to be an idiot. Which do I believe? </p><p></p><p>As far as a challenge to your posts, no. I simply stated a reasonable fact. You can't just accept my statement for what it is. I do not have to challenge you. </p><p></p><p>I was thinking you had some good points. Then, you pull out the "stupid" comments. Talk about a Colonel Blimp moment.</p><p></p><p>I have no desire to change someone's mind. They have a free will. They are free to make up their own mind.</p><p>I guess that is the difference. I think if the facts are clearly presented, one can make their own reasonable decision.</p><p></p><p>Your opinion of me and my posts is just that, your opinion. I have no desire to change it, either. Maybe, before I would have. Not now. That is what is sad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="menotyou, post: 934607, member: 24535"] I am not in this argument. You two are. I only point out that I am neither dishonest nor unintelligent. I have had many meetings with our Division Labor Manager, all of which were conducted reasonably. Details? Sorry. They were closed door meetings. I have never been disciplined by him for any of the comments I have made. I am respected by them, as they have told my BA that many times. They still ask how I am doing through my center manager, whom I hear from weekly. Does he have to do this? No. It's a choice he makes. Why? He has stated, along with my on-car, I am sorely missed and they want me back ASAP. Every week. Gee, I guess I am not the thorn I have been purported to be. AS far as RTW, I am not well versed in the subject. I have little knowledge on the subject, so I choose not to join in. My father and I have had discussions on it. I choose to keep those private at this time. I do know unions were started to protect workers from tyrannical employers. UPS has become that. Now, more than ever, something is needed to protect us. Is it the union? Well, we have nothing else right now. Am I proud of the teamsters and what they have done for us? Not lately. Again, that makes it hard for me to defend them right now. Crowbar is an individual. He is making his own statements. He has his own opinion. He thinks you to be an idiot. Which do I believe? As far as a challenge to your posts, no. I simply stated a reasonable fact. You can't just accept my statement for what it is. I do not have to challenge you. I was thinking you had some good points. Then, you pull out the "stupid" comments. Talk about a Colonel Blimp moment. I have no desire to change someone's mind. They have a free will. They are free to make up their own mind. I guess that is the difference. I think if the facts are clearly presented, one can make their own reasonable decision. Your opinion of me and my posts is just that, your opinion. I have no desire to change it, either. Maybe, before I would have. Not now. That is what is sad. [/QUOTE]
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