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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 935173" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>"crowbar"</p><p></p><p>I think we can safely assume that there are a LOT of things you "don't know" [smile] And, of course (as you just demonstrated) integrity is one of them. As for your "recruiting" the Teamsters, I asked a SERIOUS question a few posts back concerning just when and where the Indiana UPS'ers (to use your term) "recruited" the Teamsters. I asked if there's ANY currently-employed Indiana District UPSers who were EVER permitted to cast a vote as to whether or not to choose the Teamsters as their representation. I realize that the Indiana terminal of Overnite/UPS Freight had that privilege (after they had already de-certified once and albeit WITHOUT being permitted a secret ballot!)...but now I'm talking about that portion of UPS that has been in Indiana for fifty-five years or more.</p><p></p><p>Tell ya' what; show me that you're not just an absolute blowhard and answer that question; I'll have a little respect for you if you can and will. Personally, I don't think such current employees exists. But YOU said that "WE responsibly recruited the Teamsters to be our representative", which implies that they DO. After all, what does "we" mean?. 'Course, you also said that UPS has been union for over a hundred years ...while I'd maintain that UPS employees NEVER originally "recruited" the Teamsters at all; rather, the union was INVITED in by owner/partner Jim Casey, in a time frame well less than a 100 year ago.. And, being fairly familiar with Indiana (which, after all, is what this thread is about), I'm not aware of any Indiana UPSer that was involved in "recruiting" the Teamsters as their representative, either. But maybe you can prove me wrong.</p><p></p><p>So show me that you're not a run-of-the-mill bullsh_tter. Show me that you have half an ounce of knowledge about what you're talking about. Back up your claim. If you can, you'll earn a bit of my respect. Show us that you're good for something . If you can't....well, what should we reasonably expect from a "crowbar"-type individual?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 935173, member: 16651"] "crowbar" I think we can safely assume that there are a LOT of things you "don't know" [smile] And, of course (as you just demonstrated) integrity is one of them. As for your "recruiting" the Teamsters, I asked a SERIOUS question a few posts back concerning just when and where the Indiana UPS'ers (to use your term) "recruited" the Teamsters. I asked if there's ANY currently-employed Indiana District UPSers who were EVER permitted to cast a vote as to whether or not to choose the Teamsters as their representation. I realize that the Indiana terminal of Overnite/UPS Freight had that privilege (after they had already de-certified once and albeit WITHOUT being permitted a secret ballot!)...but now I'm talking about that portion of UPS that has been in Indiana for fifty-five years or more. Tell ya' what; show me that you're not just an absolute blowhard and answer that question; I'll have a little respect for you if you can and will. Personally, I don't think such current employees exists. But YOU said that "WE responsibly recruited the Teamsters to be our representative", which implies that they DO. After all, what does "we" mean?. 'Course, you also said that UPS has been union for over a hundred years ...while I'd maintain that UPS employees NEVER originally "recruited" the Teamsters at all; rather, the union was INVITED in by owner/partner Jim Casey, in a time frame well less than a 100 year ago.. And, being fairly familiar with Indiana (which, after all, is what this thread is about), I'm not aware of any Indiana UPSer that was involved in "recruiting" the Teamsters as their representative, either. But maybe you can prove me wrong. So show me that you're not a run-of-the-mill bullsh_tter. Show me that you have half an ounce of knowledge about what you're talking about. Back up your claim. If you can, you'll earn a bit of my respect. Show us that you're good for something . If you can't....well, what should we reasonably expect from a "crowbar"-type individual? [/QUOTE]
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