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<blockquote data-quote="Dixie Doll" data-source="post: 178627" data-attributes="member: 8640"><p>"""Both choices require unification among UPSers, both fulltime and parttime. The only thing I can credit the APWA with is if they do succeed in swaying enough people to enact a vote by the NLRB they could get the attention of the teamsters. Which could in turn intiate the change required within our current union. I fully agree that we need our own pension fund separate from all the other companies the teamsters represent. Its already there for the part-timers, and it needs to be there for the full-timers as well. I just don't agree with giving up on the teamsters alltogether and going with some organization that just comes out of the blue.""""</p><p> </p><p>I disagree. I understand that, for the most part, we all wanted to believe that today's Teamsters were the same Teamsters of days gone by. But, at some point we have to face the reality. They are not. It does not matter whether you get the attention of the Teamsters or not. Nothing is going to initiate any change within the Teamsters. The Teamsters are in bed with UPS and are not - nor have they been for a long time - working in your best interest. They are and will continue to be controlled by the company. If things are going to change - SOMEBODY has to have the balls to take the challenge. It may well be that this organization out of the blue, as you refer to it, is the one ready to stand up and fight. The only thing that is going to bring the unity back, at this point, is the motivation generated by a new organization who demonstrates that they have the backbone, can not be bought out, and that they are truly going to represent and fight for the member's like it was originally intended to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dixie Doll, post: 178627, member: 8640"] """Both choices require unification among UPSers, both fulltime and parttime. The only thing I can credit the APWA with is if they do succeed in swaying enough people to enact a vote by the NLRB they could get the attention of the teamsters. Which could in turn intiate the change required within our current union. I fully agree that we need our own pension fund separate from all the other companies the teamsters represent. Its already there for the part-timers, and it needs to be there for the full-timers as well. I just don't agree with giving up on the teamsters alltogether and going with some organization that just comes out of the blue."""" I disagree. I understand that, for the most part, we all wanted to believe that today's Teamsters were the same Teamsters of days gone by. But, at some point we have to face the reality. They are not. It does not matter whether you get the attention of the Teamsters or not. Nothing is going to initiate any change within the Teamsters. The Teamsters are in bed with UPS and are not - nor have they been for a long time - working in your best interest. They are and will continue to be controlled by the company. If things are going to change - SOMEBODY has to have the balls to take the challenge. It may well be that this organization out of the blue, as you refer to it, is the one ready to stand up and fight. The only thing that is going to bring the unity back, at this point, is the motivation generated by a new organization who demonstrates that they have the backbone, can not be bought out, and that they are truly going to represent and fight for the member's like it was originally intended to be. [/QUOTE]
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