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Message: <blockquote data-quote="olroadbeech" data-source="post: 4662742" data-attributes="member: 52145">Movie about this was pretty good. I hated Clay at first. Was pretty young when he beat Liston. Probably because my father hated him. Nobody but NOBODY thought he had a chance against Foreman. Everyone was saying he actually could get killed in the ring .When I grew older and read books about Ali and found out what he was really like , I came to respect and admire him. He took a greatly unpopular stand against Vietnam when at the time that was unheard of. We thought he was just scared and selfish not to serve. Who else at that time had the courage ( as a major celebrity ) to do what he did?Would I give up everything I had for a conviction?  I don't think so.</blockquote>