Three questions re: Late Air

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Grey, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    1. If you're manifest sheet is 3 qtrs of the way down the page and you know you'll have late air what steps do you take in regards to communicating with sups about it before you leave.

    2. When you have late A.M. Air do you del right away even though it's late (10:30-11:00) or whenever it's most convenient cause it's late anyway?

    3. What's the furthest discipline you've seen on a driver regarding late air (either fluke occurrence or ongoing problem)?

  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    1. Tell your sup or dispatch sup you will not be able to service this many air stops. 2. Deliver only air late or not. UPS will say the reason you had late air is because you delivered ground stops first. 3. Center Manager or dispatch sup gets chewed out for a bad plan. As long as you make an honest effort, the rest is up to your management team. I asked once about having late air because I sat through a red light or should I run the light. No answer.
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  3. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    I'd also send a message via the DIAD before leaving the building saying you will have late air, just in case they "forget" that you told them.
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  4. sailfish

    sailfish Having way too much fun.

    2. This depends on what you mean by late A.M. Air. If you're referring to air that arrives to the building late ask management if it's to be delivered on trace or if you're supposed to break for it.
  5. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    Even if the air/ground is the same house?

    The reason I ask about delivering late right after 10:30 or waiting cause I've heard some run late for whatever reason then say they found it on shelf 7 or something around 2-3 o'clock. Granted that makes the preloaded look bad.
  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Good catch. I did not read the sentence that way. Depending on how late you receive your air you could be instructed to either run in trace or deliver when doing pick ups. Most likely the late air has been exempted so UPS will not pay a late air penalty.
  7. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    Just meant normal 10:30 commit. Sometimes on the manifest paper there's that @ symbol next to the stop that might or might not make your truck in time.
  8. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Are you being honest or just blaming a preloader for something he did not do? Always be honest.
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    That would be a forecast or logic scan. Check your EDD and count your air stops. For all you know that one air stop is misloaded on another package car. Just always be honest in your deliveries.
  10. govols019

    govols019 You smell that? air only. Make sure your management team is made aware of air issues before you leave the that point, they can either make adjustments or have late air. Their choice.
  11. mdnj88

    mdnj88 Active Member

    They are really cracking down by us about late air. Bosses coming out at 1015 to "help" find missing air by unloading entire truck. If you say you can't find it then find it at 2pm that's getting a warning letter or suspension. If you find it and don't deliver it asap, that's all a warning letter.
  12. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    No way. Always blame someone else and never change your story.
  13. Gumby

    Gumby *


    Shame on you.
  14. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Sorry, but can't trust management.
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  15. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    Late air is late air weather it's 1 min or 6 hrs. Once it's late it gets delivered on trace.
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  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    While the company would prefer that it all be delivered on time, I'm sure that they would prefer it be one minute later rather than 6 hours.
  17. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    That's pretty extreme. I didn't realize how differently some centers ran than others from a management standpoint. Guess it depends on the district.
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    12ish years ago, a driver in my center went through progressive discipline and was fired for regular late air. After a warning letter and 2 suspensions, he was fired twice. It stuck the 2nd time.
  19. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    run air only
  20. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    I'd file a supervisor working grievance and stop that.