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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4522640" data-attributes="member: 63706">That's the problem with political labels, the definitions are always shifting. Most people who claim to be liberal are really leftist puppets, or leftists claiming to be liberal. Leftists, especially you "revolutionary" types, don't seem to have a coherent agenda. You rail against the government, but you think the solution is more government, at least as far as I can tell from your posts. Really, you don't have a problem with government, you just want to be in charge, and you accomplish it by stirring up chaos through inflaming easily manipulated, useful idiots. While everyone is busy dealing with the chaos, you swoop in and, while you think you are making everything better, you really just destroy everything you touch, because that is all you know.</blockquote>