Have you met any of the 23 surviving triple ("triple" means "three") amputees from this war? I have.
It might change your opinions.
Bad wars, good warriors.
What do amputees have to do with TORTURE? Thats a part of the job. "WAR IS HELL" is the old saying and to try to connect injuries to our soldiers to TORTURE is ridiculous at best.
We are suppose to be a Nation of laws. A Nation of leadership. A Nation that stands above the rest of the world when it comes to INTEGRITY.
When BUSH and his administration BROKE the LAW and began torturing people to extract WORTHLESS information, and then LIED about it and Followed that up with PHONEY STORIES floated about INTEL that saved lives or prevented terror attacks, then we are NO BETTER than the third world countries that still do that today.
We have LAWS on the books that have to be respected. BUSH and Alberto Gonzalez broke the law while IGNORING already STANDING law that prevented torture.
Of course, the FOX news drones will say that "torture" was necessary to win the war on terror, because thats what all the talking heads on FOX are saying.
Dick Cheney, the biggest liar of them all refuses to call it torture, but what else would he say?? He's facing international charges for war crimes, he isnt about to call it TORTURE as that would be an admission of guilt.
To expect Dick Cheney, a false patriot, to admit to breaking the law will never happen.
President Ronald Reagan Signed the Geneva Convention Article on Torture into LAW. It states the following and there is NO WAY anybody can say BUSH had a way around it..
Article 2 (2-3)
"No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture" and "an order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture" (Art. 2 (2-3))."
The verbage is CRYSTAL CLEAR. There are NO CIRCUMSTANCES, like "amputees" that justify TORTURE.
I am still laughing at that claim.
President Ronald Reagan made an agreement with the Geneva Convention to PREVENT ANY country from practicing torture and the penalties are also CRYSTAL CLEAR for violating this law.
"The United States participated actively and effectively in the negotiation of the Convention . It marks a significant step in the development during this century of international measures against torture and other inhuman treatment or punishment. Ratification of the Convention by the United States will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately still prevalent in the world today.
The core provisions of the Convention establish a regime for international cooperation in the criminal prosecution of torturers relying on so-called 'universal jurisdiction.' Each State Party is required either to prosecute torturers who are found in its territory or to extradite them to other countries for prosecution."~ RONALD REAGAN
BY law, either BUSH and his administration should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law in this country, or extradite them to the international court for prosecution.
This is the law.
There ISNT a single excuse any of you can make to justify torture. Nothing Bill Orielly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or any bleach bottle blond on FOX news can justify torture in face of the law.
ANYTHING said on FOX news that justfies torture is simple hogwash for idiots.
TOS.
how much they were tortured, beaten, abused, sodomized, castrated......It all seems well and good to me. so, roughly 20% were INNOCENT of any wrongdoing, or they just didn't have any good information? 
