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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4560067" data-attributes="member: 63706">How did they know it was early? My state didn&#039;t have numbers to justify a shutdown to begin with. It was supposed to be two weeks to flatten the curve. Well we didn&#039;t have a curve in my state until after the shut downs. The numbers in my state are suggesting the shut down and masking are the two biggest drivers of the increase in cases. And let&#039;s not forget, total number of unconfirmed cases have been estimated to be 70 to 80 times higher than confirmed cases. More testing must logically convert more unconfirmed cases into confirmed cases. The focus should be on the number of severe cases, lab confirmed hospitalizations, and lab confirmed deaths caused by complications from covid. Then, we also need to be looking at recovery rates and treatment options.It is absolutely unreasonable to come up with a pandemic response that expects people to be willing to die from starvation to avoid dying from a virus, but that&#039;s the plan we got. It was never going to work, because only the most obedient sheep would ever stop working to support themselves just because some virus that they are reasonably unlikely to catch, and less than 1% likely to die from if they did.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4560067, member: 63706"] How did they know it was early? My state didn't have numbers to justify a shutdown to begin with. It was supposed to be two weeks to flatten the curve. Well we didn't have a curve in my state until after the shut downs. The numbers in my state are suggesting the shut down and masking are the two biggest drivers of the increase in cases. And let's not forget, total number of unconfirmed cases have been estimated to be 70 to 80 times higher than confirmed cases. More testing must logically convert more unconfirmed cases into confirmed cases. The focus should be on the number of severe cases, lab confirmed hospitalizations, and lab confirmed deaths caused by complications from covid. Then, we also need to be looking at recovery rates and treatment options. It is absolutely unreasonable to come up with a pandemic response that expects people to be willing to die from starvation to avoid dying from a virus, but that's the plan we got. It was never going to work, because only the most obedient sheep would ever stop working to support themselves just because some virus that they are reasonably unlikely to catch, and less than 1% likely to die from if they did. [/QUOTE]

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