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Leave P-Man alone, he's just doing his job.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Pman
Your conduct and responses on this site have always been positive and above the norm for management. I can say that only of a very few. And as I have posted, UPS would be a totally different place if we had more of the persona's that you portray here.
Let me refresh the question
Respectfully
d
Your conduct and responses on this site have always been positive and above the norm for management. I can say that only of a very few. And as I have posted, UPS would be a totally different place if we had more of the persona's that you portray here.
Let me refresh the question
That is the story he posted to which you responded with
You were in such a hurry to put down the "other driver" that you didnt even notice that your driver got in at the "right time". But yet the first things out of your mind is that he is padding miles. OF all the other things it could be, that was the first? And you dont think that way?
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d
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
i would kill the route,, shoot,, id say 2 hrs quicker than you son,,any day,, everyday,, WOOOOOOO,,its ok to do the job faster than others,, i take great pride in it,, also,, danny,, do you still work at ups?? talkin about the good ole days are ya?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Don't you have a six pack (plus two) to drink?
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Hellfire
Ive seen types like you come and go. Flash in the pans we call them. Others call them minute man, cause thats all you will last.
The center up here had several over the years. None work at UPS anymore. Several couldnt even if they wanted to.
So you figure it out. For some it takes a long time.
UPS is not a sprint, its a long distance marathon.
As far as me and you in a delivery face off, I believe I could still beat you, even with only one hand.
d
Ive seen types like you come and go. Flash in the pans we call them. Others call them minute man, cause thats all you will last.
The center up here had several over the years. None work at UPS anymore. Several couldnt even if they wanted to.
So you figure it out. For some it takes a long time.
UPS is not a sprint, its a long distance marathon.
As far as me and you in a delivery face off, I believe I could still beat you, even with only one hand.
d
Sheesh. Old UPSers are so touchy.
Welcome to Brown Cafe....
pretzel_man
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After 35 years, I know (and have known) countless. This is across multiple districts and regions......
I stick by my opinion. I'm sure you will stick by yours.
I also absolutely know my own beliefs. I don't belive "them drivers".
pretzel_man
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If you thought my statement about running up miles meant lying about miles, then I understand you statement. I did not mean "padding miles" or lying about the miles on the odometer.
I meant driving more miles that the original driver. Driving more miles (running up miles in my vocabulary) will give additional planned time. This is the scenario I have seen the most.
If you look at what I said, I think I acknowledged that other things could account for it, but miles is the most likely....
I also don't understand the statement about "swallowing the story". I answered how it could happen.
Danny, one final thing about "swallowing the story". His statement was that if the scenario he stated is true, then what management told him about how things work is BS. Look at how many people jumped on that and blasted management....
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Evenin Pman, hope you had a good day at the office. Here, it rained all day, so a good day to catch up on paperwork I have been putting off.
Now, you allowed him to dictate the answer by not giving you the complete information on the question. How do you compare the following?
Our driver 400 packages 211 stops Got back at the right time Beats it by .50
The other 300 packages 190 stops got back in by 21:30 and beats it by .1
You can not compare the two, because he never told you what numerical value the "right time is. It could have been an hour later. You dont know. So therefor how can you really know if the first driver is actually doing the better job as he claims.
When comparing two drivers, I always want hard numbers. Then figure out what the difference is.
Also, there are other factors not mentioned. Not all stops are rated the same either. Sups around here tried that one. Gave a driver a high density area with a decent allowance, and he knocked off 56 stops in two hours. Blasted his numbers and his over/under. But yet 15 different stops on the same loop that are spread out have the same allowance, but those 15 take the two hours to deliver as well. So not all stops are the same either. But you already know that.
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d
Well, lets see if I can explain it to where we are on the same page.
Now, you allowed him to dictate the answer by not giving you the complete information on the question. How do you compare the following?
Our driver 400 packages 211 stops Got back at the right time Beats it by .50
The other 300 packages 190 stops got back in by 21:30 and beats it by .1
You can not compare the two, because he never told you what numerical value the "right time is. It could have been an hour later. You dont know. So therefor how can you really know if the first driver is actually doing the better job as he claims.
When comparing two drivers, I always want hard numbers. Then figure out what the difference is.
Also, there are other factors not mentioned. Not all stops are rated the same either. Sups around here tried that one. Gave a driver a high density area with a decent allowance, and he knocked off 56 stops in two hours. Blasted his numbers and his over/under. But yet 15 different stops on the same loop that are spread out have the same allowance, but those 15 take the two hours to deliver as well. So not all stops are the same either. But you already know that.
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d
DS
Fenderbender
We had a DM? once,tell us all, about 60 of us,that "We know every driver steals time"
Up until then,it had never crossed my mind.I took offence to it.
Since that, every detail of what I do is recorded to the minute.
Pretz,to change the topic a bit,
I think that ups is misguided by re-looping using gps and maps.A ride along
with a veteran driver would be far more efficient and productive.
I don't think that cutting routes and over dispatching drivers will do anything
except put more money in the shareholders pockets.The sad part is,the one
that suffers most,is the customer.
P-man Tell your boss DS is not happy with the direction the company is going.
And I have A LOT of friends
Up until then,it had never crossed my mind.I took offence to it.
Since that, every detail of what I do is recorded to the minute.
Pretz,to change the topic a bit,
I think that ups is misguided by re-looping using gps and maps.A ride along
with a veteran driver would be far more efficient and productive.
I don't think that cutting routes and over dispatching drivers will do anything
except put more money in the shareholders pockets.The sad part is,the one
that suffers most,is the customer.
P-man Tell your boss DS is not happy with the direction the company is going.
And I have A LOT of friends
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Mr danny sir, I have quoted my original post with a little clarification for you as to the exact time.
Being as I am niether a veteran driver nor a DMS Sup or even in IE, I dont know on what it is based. I didnt attack or accuse anyone of lying (management or otherwise) to me about what it was based on merely that the way it has been explained to me was BS if this could happen.
I hate stupid people. Therefore I hate most on roads and corporate people I have met, but do not hold that opinion of UPS management as a whole. Although, managers are only promoted to their own level of incompotance.
And if you know someone who still wets the bed and abuses smalls animals, they are either a serial killer or a member of UPS corporate.
Being as I am niether a veteran driver nor a DMS Sup or even in IE, I dont know on what it is based. I didnt attack or accuse anyone of lying (management or otherwise) to me about what it was based on merely that the way it has been explained to me was BS if this could happen.
I hate stupid people. Therefore I hate most on roads and corporate people I have met, but do not hold that opinion of UPS management as a whole. Although, managers are only promoted to their own level of incompotance.
And if you know someone who still wets the bed and abuses smalls animals, they are either a serial killer or a member of UPS corporate.
DS
Fenderbender
What the heck does this mean?
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Not sure. I never look at the numbers. I am just told. But that's a good question.
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
I believe it was a reference to the Peter Principle. See Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
Dragon
Package Center Manager
I hate stupid people....sigh..
please put down the mountain dew...
your rambling.....
old levi's
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This is not directed at any one person because the error occurs quite often. Probably because English is no longer taught.
Your is a possessive adjective / of or belonging to / Example: your car
You're is a contraction of two words / you + are / Example: you're rambling
One is not equal to the other in meaning, therefore they are not interchangeable.
I feel better. You may begin flaming now.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Since we are pointing out common errors we should also talk about the proper use of the dollar sign ($). When you use the $ you do not have to add the word "dollars" or "bucks", as in $50 dollars, as the $ means dollars. Also, $.99 is not the same as .99 cents. You do not need to use a decimal point if you use the word cents.
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