U.K. Rioting

[moreluck]

Maybe if the looters had jobs too......

http://townhall.com/columnists/doug...cops_and_fair_citizens_carry_guns!/page/full/

 

[soberups]

Maybe if the police over there had something more to use than sticks and whistles....

I remember the Rodney King riots down in L.A.....there were Asian-run businesses that didnt get torched or looted because their owners were up on the rooftop defending their property with guns.

Not only are the police in the UK unarmed...but they wont even let them use water cannons or baton rounds against the mobs. They pretty much have to stand there with sticks and whistles and watch the mayhem unfold. I can understand and agree with the reluctance to use force against peaceful demonstrations but when you have mobs of looters and arsonists running wild with no respect for authority or fear of any consequences then its time to start cracking some skulls.

 

[Babagounj]

[h=2]Zero tolerance: The dramatic moment armed police officer holds a gun over the head of a 15-year-old boy on a Manchester high street[/h] This dramatic picture shows the officer standing over the boy with the semi-automatic rifle outside a Greggs bakery in Wythenshawe which was the scene of riots just four days earlier. At least a dozen police officers swarmed the area in Wythensawe and searched a group of boys aged between 11 and 15.

 

[Babagounj]

[h=2]No shame: Masked looters brazenly pose with their haul of top gadgets [/h] Proudly posing with their stolen spoils, this bunch of thieves embody the greedy nature of looters who snatched whatever they could while ransacking England's streets. But specialist officers at Scotland Yard are matching images from CCTV with pictures stored in the computerised files of people who had been arrested or charged, so these posers' smug pictures could be their downfall.

 

[Babagounj]

[h=1]Could you shop a looter? As thousands of 'rioting' youngsters are arrested police issue pictures of yet ANOTHER 88 suspects[/h]

• Friends and families reporting suspects including a Birmingham mother who escorted her 15-year-old daughter to police after recognising her in a CCTV appeal
• Scotland Yard arrested 1,271 people, of whom 745 have been charged.
• Pictures of rioters are being displayed on vans and driven around by police

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ge-new-riot-suspect-images.html#ixzz1V1zd7r4K
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[Babagounj]

The faces of frenzy: These are just some of the people police want to identify in connection with the riots

An armful of shoes, a bottle of drink and a house brick: What just two suspects clutched as they were caught on camera as riots broke out across the country

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ge-new-riot-suspect-images.html#ixzz1V20bdHn8
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ge-new-riot-suspect-images.html#ixzz1V20HPsqr

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[wkmac]

Maybe if the police over there had something more to use than sticks and whistles....

I remember the Rodney King riots down in L.A.....there were Asian-run businesses that didnt get torched or looted because their owners were up on the rooftop defending their property with guns.

Not only are the police in the UK unarmed...but they wont even let them use water cannons or baton rounds against the mobs. They pretty much have to stand there with sticks and whistles and watch the mayhem unfold. I can understand and agree with the reluctance to use force against peaceful demonstrations but when you have mobs of looters and arsonists running wild with no respect for authority or fear of any consequences then its time to start cracking some skulls.

 

[moreluck]

[h=2]No shame: Masked looters brazenly pose with their haul of top gadgets [/h] Proudly posing with their stolen spoils, this bunch of thieves embody the greedy nature of looters who snatched whatever they could while ransacking England's streets. But specialist officers at Scotland Yard are matching images from CCTV with pictures stored in the computerised files of people who had been arrested or charged, so these posers' smug pictures could be their downfall.

I noticed on the TV interviews, they were all acting proud of their behavior, yet the masks remained in place. Not too proud if your face is covered.

 

[soberups]

[h=2]Zero tolerance: The dramatic moment armed police officer holds a gun over the head of a 15-year-old boy on a Manchester high street[/h] This dramatic picture shows the officer standing over the boy with the semi-automatic rifle outside a Greggs bakery in Wythenshawe which was the scene of riots just four days earlier. At least a dozen police officers swarmed the area in Wythensawe and searched a group of boys aged between 11 and 15.

Perhaps the young man will learn a lesson and rethink the wisdom of looting and waving a BB gun around.

 

[soberups]

I think it is critical to make the distinction between peaceful protest and mob anarchy.

I totally support the right of all citizens to peacefully march or assemble in order to protest, even if I totally disagree with what they are saying. Peaceful protest is a fundamental aspect of living in a free and democratic society.

I also totally support the right of the police to stomp the sh%t out of anybody who is looting, burning or vandalizing during a riot. Consequences for criminal behavior are also a fundamental aspect of living in a free and democratic society.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Sober, can you imagine how much worse the LA riots could/would have been had facebook or other social media been in place at that time?

 

[tonyexpress]

Certainly an interesting time and don't we continue to live in interesting times.........

From a UPS Los Angeles riot prospective:

In 1992 I had only been a supervisor for a couple of years and was working in a UPS facility in Orange County (Laguna) about 50 miles south of the L.A. riots.

As UPS does and should do we look out for our own, fires, hurricanes, riots, you name it. Anyway not knowing what to expect I was dispatched to Los Angeles to ride with drivers because traveling in teams was the only safe way to get X amount of days’ worth of deliveries, delivered. Went to L.A. two consecutive days and with all the help that's all it took clean out the building.

I rode with a driver right in the heart of the clothing and jewelry district. This was back in the day, especially in this area where a lot of cash was collected. In fact the driver had a cash box welded to the rear shelf of his package car and would drop the cash there. Fortunately due to my bulging biceps there were no incidents. In all honesty I was probably looking backwards more than ahead all day long both days I was there.

We had to be back before dark each day and let’s just say being hyper aware of our surroundings was a no brainer.

 

[Catatonic]

I noticed on the TV interviews, they were all acting proud of their behavior, yet the masks remained in place. Not too proud if your face is covered.

Have you ever noticed the teeth of English people?

 

[soberups]

Sober, can you imagine how much worse the LA riots could/would have been had facebook or other social media been in place at that time?

Thats an interesting thought.

I dont know that social media made the British riots any worse. I think what made them worse was the fact that the rioters knew that there would be no consequences for their actions. They were up against unarmed and outnumbered police.

In the LA riots there may not have been any Facebook, but there was certainly no shortage of media coverage on 24 hr cable TV news channels. I suspect that, comparitively speaking, the LA riots were not as widespread because both our police and our average citizens are better equipped to defend themselves and their property.

 

[moreluck]

Thats an interesting thought.

I dont know that social media made the British riots any worse. I think what made them worse was the fact that the rioters knew that there would be no consequences for their actions. They were up against unarmed and outnumbered police.

In the LA riots there may not have been any Facebook, but there was certainly no shortage of media coverage on 24 hr cable TV news channels. I suspect that, comparitively speaking, the LA riots were not as widespread because both our police and our average citizens are better equipped to defend themselves and their property.

I think the police should definitely check if any of the rioters are illegals and deport them fast.........that could send a message to others.

 

[moreluck]

The prime minister just said that "British society promotes laziness".....and that's the reason for the riots. Take away the damn welfare and put those lazy asses to work (you know I mean the ones milking the system)

 

[wkmac]

 

[moreluck]

Explanations & excuses..........

http://townhall.com/columnists/calt...ions_and_excuses_for_english_riots/page/full/

 

[Babagounj]

The U.K. has more cctv than anywhere else.
You can't spit on the sidewalk without someone watching you.

 

[moreluck]