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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5519656" data-attributes="member: 24302">The Soviet Union&#039;s economy was basically India plus a big military.&nbsp; They couldn&#039;t compete with us and fell apart trying.&nbsp; It was also a huge patchwork of many ethnic groups, races, cultures only held together by Russian domination.&nbsp; Furthermore the Eastern European countries can&#039;t supply them troops anymore but will supply NATO and fight like hell to keep the Russians out.&nbsp; The only thing the Russians have is nukes.Raw numbers for China doesn&#039;t mean much without the ability to project power.&nbsp; China&#039;s navy does not have the capabilities our has, not by a long shot.&nbsp; The big story for both Russia and China is demographic collapse.&nbsp; Not only are they limited on fighting age men, there&#039;s no bigger generation coming up to shore up their numbers.&nbsp; They are aging out.&nbsp; Ukraine is likely the last war of any size Russia will be able to fight and they are losing a lot of young men they can ill afford to lose.&nbsp; And follow the money.&nbsp; Anytime our defense contractors start telling us we need more ships, etc, run.&nbsp; There&#039;s nothing more they&#039;d like then a big buildup of our navy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5519656, member: 24302"] The Soviet Union's economy was basically India plus a big military. They couldn't compete with us and fell apart trying. It was also a huge patchwork of many ethnic groups, races, cultures only held together by Russian domination. Furthermore the Eastern European countries can't supply them troops anymore but will supply NATO and fight like hell to keep the Russians out. The only thing the Russians have is nukes. Raw numbers for China doesn't mean much without the ability to project power. China's navy does not have the capabilities our has, not by a long shot. The big story for both Russia and China is demographic collapse. Not only are they limited on fighting age men, there's no bigger generation coming up to shore up their numbers. They are aging out. Ukraine is likely the last war of any size Russia will be able to fight and they are losing a lot of young men they can ill afford to lose. And follow the money. Anytime our defense contractors start telling us we need more ships, etc, run. There's nothing more they'd like then a big buildup of our navy. [/QUOTE]

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