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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 5194773" data-attributes="member: 58700">Ukraine is a soviergn country you can&#039;t just&nbsp; just invade someone because you think they&#039;re a threat.&nbsp; Just like you can&#039;t go shoot your neighbor because you think he may be a threat someday. You dont have right to dictate what goes on in your neighbors house and you dont have a right to demand the house next to you is either empty or has someone living in it that you like simply to keep you away from a neighbor you don&#039;t like on the other side of that house.To make this argument you would have to ignore the other countries that Putin has already taken over in similar fashion for similar reasoning. Putin has displayed a pattern that is eerily similar to the Hitler playbook.your mexico / canada example is not a good one. Nato does not sourround Russia. They are on the other side of that continent.&nbsp; a better example would be us dictating the politics of mexico because we dont like the country of Belize.Putin has other options including diplomatic ones to Keep Nato&#039; off his doorstep even offering financial investment offers to the Ukraine if they would stay neutral.instead this action will put Nato on his doorstep and make him a pariah to the world.Putin attacking another Country for any reason unprovoked should always be wrong.the internal politics of your neighboring country can never be provocation. If it becomes justification than every country that borders one with a different political belief is then fair game and the world will be caught up in endless war.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newfie, post: 5194773, member: 58700"] Ukraine is a soviergn country you can't just just invade someone because you think they're a threat. Just like you can't go shoot your neighbor because you think he may be a threat someday. You dont have right to dictate what goes on in your neighbors house and you dont have a right to demand the house next to you is either empty or has someone living in it that you like simply to keep you away from a neighbor you don't like on the other side of that house. To make this argument you would have to ignore the other countries that Putin has already taken over in similar fashion for similar reasoning. Putin has displayed a pattern that is eerily similar to the Hitler playbook. your mexico / canada example is not a good one. Nato does not sourround Russia. They are on the other side of that continent. a better example would be us dictating the politics of mexico because we dont like the country of Belize. Putin has other options including diplomatic ones to Keep Nato' off his doorstep even offering financial investment offers to the Ukraine if they would stay neutral. instead this action will put Nato on his doorstep and make him a pariah to the world. Putin attacking another Country for any reason unprovoked should always be wrong. the internal politics of your neighboring country can never be provocation. If it becomes justification than every country that borders one with a different political belief is then fair game and the world will be caught up in endless war. [/QUOTE]

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