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<blockquote data-quote="AwashBwashCwash" data-source="post: 5194917" data-attributes="member: 73305"><p>You should tell that to the US government then. It's amazing how all of these "democratic protests" always pop up whenever we don't get our way.</p><p>Ghaddafi wants to get off the petrodollar and implement a gold standard banking system for Africa?</p><p>"Democratic protest" happens and he's killed by a mob.</p><p>Assad says no to the Israeli pipeline going through his country?</p><p>"Democratic protest" happens and partisans "advised" by US special forces attempt to overthrow him.</p><p>Ukrainian leadership reorients the economy towards Moscow?</p><p>"Democratic protest" happens and American puppet regime is installed and entire country is turned into a money laundering playground for Western elites. </p><p>I think I'm seeing a pattern. None of this is "internal politics" and none of it is "unprovoked." It only seems out of the blue to you because you are totally ignorant about the region. You have a double standard. You're ready to call out Russia as the aggressors but you're willing to overlook American aggression and the countless color revolutions we have funded and the many countries we have destabilized for the sake of expanding American hegemony at the cost of MILLIONS of lives.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's funny how "sovereignty" applies in one case but apparently doesn't apply to the separatists who want to leave. The Ukraninan government certainly didn't buy into the sovereignty argument when they were shelling civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk and causing heavy casualties, where was your outrage then? Or do you only get outraged when the nearest screen tells you to?</p><p>I always know a discussion has reached abject pointlessness when people start playing Freud with world leaders and attributing motives.</p><p>"Putin wants to dominate Ukrainians who dared defy him" that is not a serious point of view.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AwashBwashCwash, post: 5194917, member: 73305"] You should tell that to the US government then. It's amazing how all of these "democratic protests" always pop up whenever we don't get our way. Ghaddafi wants to get off the petrodollar and implement a gold standard banking system for Africa? "Democratic protest" happens and he's killed by a mob. Assad says no to the Israeli pipeline going through his country? "Democratic protest" happens and partisans "advised" by US special forces attempt to overthrow him. Ukrainian leadership reorients the economy towards Moscow? "Democratic protest" happens and American puppet regime is installed and entire country is turned into a money laundering playground for Western elites. I think I'm seeing a pattern. None of this is "internal politics" and none of it is "unprovoked." It only seems out of the blue to you because you are totally ignorant about the region. You have a double standard. You're ready to call out Russia as the aggressors but you're willing to overlook American aggression and the countless color revolutions we have funded and the many countries we have destabilized for the sake of expanding American hegemony at the cost of MILLIONS of lives. It's funny how "sovereignty" applies in one case but apparently doesn't apply to the separatists who want to leave. The Ukraninan government certainly didn't buy into the sovereignty argument when they were shelling civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk and causing heavy casualties, where was your outrage then? Or do you only get outraged when the nearest screen tells you to? I always know a discussion has reached abject pointlessness when people start playing Freud with world leaders and attributing motives. "Putin wants to dominate Ukrainians who dared defy him" that is not a serious point of view. [/QUOTE]
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