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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 5204099" data-attributes="member: 63706">Rebels? You mean the legitimate, sovereign, independent republics that Ukraine refuses to recognize, so they are ok to bomb a bunch of farmers, but Russia can&#039;t invade Ukraine to protect its interests? I&#039;m not saying either is necessarily ok, but I&#039;m not being hypocritical and ignoring the aggressions of Ukraine while pretending that Russia has no justification for invading.What does that have to do with anything? Are you suggesting Ukraine wasn&#039;t bombing Donetsk and Luhansk because no refugees? I don&#039;t know that there weren&#039;t any, because it&#039;s irrelevent.You brought up the civilian thing. You&#039;re ok when the US does it. Enough with the crocodile tears.You brought up refugees like it has any relevance. What statement did I make that I couldn&#039;t back up? How did I make it personal, by calling you a chicken hawk? If irrelevant. Muh refugees... lol.What personal attack? Calling you a chicken hawk?I don&#039;t care if people demonstrate their ignorance by calling me a Putin supporter. If you&#039;re not a chicken hawk, tell me how. Don&#039;t you like it when the US murders civilians in Muslim countries under false pretenses? Or do I have you mixed up with someone else? It gets hard to keep track when I have half a dozen people standing in line to demonstrate how little they understand what they are talking about. It gets a bit much always being right and trying to keep track of all the ways the individual members of my fan club are wrong.Uh huh, and...? The issue isn&#039;t the propaganda, it&#039;s the people who keep trusting the sources that continue to lie to them, and get caught lying all the time. It&#039;s like a three year old who keeps touching a hot stove and can&#039;t figure out why they keep getting burnt.Most of the pro-Ukraine people that I interact with seem to form their views of the situation based on two pieces of information, &quot;Ukraine good&quot; and &quot;Putin bad&quot;. It&#039;s the same as all the anti-trumpers who only understand &quot;Orange Man bad&quot;. The pro-trumpers lived through this already, and they can&#039;t see they are falling for the same tactics. It&#039;s maddening. We&#039;ve been living through an even more concerted effort over the last two years with the official covid misinformation campaign. How anyone can trust anything said by the mefia and the establishment is beyond me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 5204099, member: 63706"] Rebels? You mean the legitimate, sovereign, independent republics that Ukraine refuses to recognize, so they are ok to bomb a bunch of farmers, but Russia can't invade Ukraine to protect its interests? I'm not saying either is necessarily ok, but I'm not being hypocritical and ignoring the aggressions of Ukraine while pretending that Russia has no justification for invading. What does that have to do with anything? Are you suggesting Ukraine wasn't bombing Donetsk and Luhansk because no refugees? I don't know that there weren't any, because it's irrelevent. You brought up the civilian thing. You're ok when the US does it. Enough with the crocodile tears. You brought up refugees like it has any relevance. What statement did I make that I couldn't back up? How did I make it personal, by calling you a chicken hawk? If irrelevant. Muh refugees... lol. What personal attack? Calling you a chicken hawk? I don't care if people demonstrate their ignorance by calling me a Putin supporter. If you're not a chicken hawk, tell me how. Don't you like it when the US murders civilians in Muslim countries under false pretenses? Or do I have you mixed up with someone else? It gets hard to keep track when I have half a dozen people standing in line to demonstrate how little they understand what they are talking about. It gets a bit much always being right [I]and[/I] trying to keep track of all the ways the individual members of my fan club are wrong. Uh huh, and...? The issue isn't the propaganda, it's the people who keep trusting the sources that continue to lie to them, and get caught lying all the time. It's like a three year old who keeps touching a hot stove and can't figure out why they keep getting burnt. Most of the pro-Ukraine people that I interact with seem to form their views of the situation based on two pieces of information, "Ukraine good" and "Putin bad". It's the same as all the anti-trumpers who only understand "Orange Man bad". The pro-trumpers lived through this already, and they can't see they are falling for the same tactics. It's maddening. We've been living through an even more concerted effort over the last two years with the official covid misinformation campaign. How anyone can trust anything said by the mefia and the establishment is beyond me. [/QUOTE]

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