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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5205799" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>You&#039;re voting for Darwinian capitalism.&nbsp; Mankind is better than that.&nbsp; As far as I&#039;m concerned one should do the very best one can, no matter the work.&nbsp; Go as far as you can based on your abilities if you choose to, but always try.&nbsp; But our system rewards some more than others and for many to succeed financially others have to come up short.&nbsp; If not please explain to me all the $8-$12hr jobs out there?&nbsp; If only all jobs paid at least $30hr and beyond without the corresponding prices that would require.&nbsp; They don&#039;t, never will, and some who see themselves as a winner are quick to tell others less well paid to accept their lot in life.&nbsp; If the system rewards some at the expense, even exploitation, of others, fine.&nbsp; But those who benefit the most from the system should be willing to at least assist in the retirement and care of those who helped them succeed.&nbsp; But too many hate having to do things like match Social Security contributions and would end the program tomorrow.&nbsp; My father is 83, has everything paid for and about $140k in the bank, down from one point $325k.&nbsp; He&#039;s a retired minister, doesn&#039;t live an extravagant life, and if he didn&#039;t have his $1800 a month Social Security he&#039;d be broke.&nbsp; There are millions like him.&nbsp; And many millions with less SS, no savings, and barely scrape by.&nbsp; Social Security and Medicare are the best ideas the Democrats have ever had.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t mean we should continue to spend like crazy, but a great nation can afford a social safety net that we can all benefit from.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5205799, member: 24302"] You're voting for Darwinian capitalism. Mankind is better than that. As far as I'm concerned one should do the very best one can, no matter the work. Go as far as you can based on your abilities if you choose to, but always try. But our system rewards some more than others and for many to succeed financially others have to come up short. If not please explain to me all the $8-$12hr jobs out there? If only all jobs paid at least $30hr and beyond without the corresponding prices that would require. They don't, never will, and some who see themselves as a winner are quick to tell others less well paid to accept their lot in life. If the system rewards some at the expense, even exploitation, of others, fine. But those who benefit the most from the system should be willing to at least assist in the retirement and care of those who helped them succeed. But too many hate having to do things like match Social Security contributions and would end the program tomorrow. My father is 83, has everything paid for and about $140k in the bank, down from one point $325k. He's a retired minister, doesn't live an extravagant life, and if he didn't have his $1800 a month Social Security he'd be broke. There are millions like him. And many millions with less SS, no savings, and barely scrape by. Social Security and Medicare are the best ideas the Democrats have ever had. Doesn't mean we should continue to spend like crazy, but a great nation can afford a social safety net that we can all benefit from. [/QUOTE]

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