Unauthorized United Way contributions...

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by aiian, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. aiian

    aiian Active Member

    I made it a point not to contribute to the United Way this year so you can imagine my surprise this morning when I checked my paycheck only to see a nice big deduction of $24!

    I mentioned it to HR this AM and he was clueless. I'll mention it to my on road sup. tomorrow but I don't foresee him being any help.

    Is there an (gasp) easy way to get this taken care of?


  2. aiian

    aiian Active Member

    Also, who is DRIVE? And why are they getting a dollar every week?
  3. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    DRIVE stands for Democratic Republican Independent Voter Education, where the Teamsters donate money to pro labor Democrat politicians.
  4. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    They are stealing your money if you didn't authorize it. The union is taking a dollar. Your manager is taking the $24 and giving it to the United Way so he can win the competition among the management on who can get the most United Way contributions, not to mention the bonus they get because of it. You can donate if you want, but they can't force you. HR has nothing to do with it. Someone forged your signature to the United Way card and the DRIVE card. Personally, I would call the police and charge their butts. And get my money back!!
  5. Nimnim

    Nimnim The Nim

    People often don't realize they're signing up for DRIVE when the local does something at their facility, but I doubt the local is forging any signatures on it since they don't see the money, it goes to a different pot used only for political stuff.

    Now UW, sounds like someone put your signature down there, how you get it removed I dunno.
  6. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    It is very simple to find out what happened. Demand to see the actual cards. The local took money from several people in my building for DRIVE who did not authorize it. As for the UW, only the building manager can sign for you, if you give them permission. Slippery slope to signing for you without your permission.
  7. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    There was a manager in my building who forged a signature on a united way form. That was about eight years ago. He has been very happy at his new job after ups less stress more family time.

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Bring a Union steward into the center manager's office and tell them the situation. Inform them that this wasn't authorized and if this is not resolved you will go to the police. I am sure you will get your money back next week !
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You will need to write a letter to payroll requesting the payroll deductions be stopped. I would also follow Heff's advice on this one.

    $24/week is a pretty steep error.
  10. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Someone should lose their job for that!
  11. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    fixed it for ya brother!
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    I suppose that is more likely!
  13. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

  14. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    You get no type of benefit what so ever?
  15. Local804guy4life

    Local804guy4life New Member

    Go straight to an HR manager. Not part timer or a specialist. If that doesn't help call the corperate hotline, that will fix this problem. Telling your supervisor won't do much. All he will do is go to HR. I don't know how it is in other buildings but in my building the Nassau Hub management is forced to donate to the united way. They are also forced to try and get us union people to donate. No matter how many times we say no they keep coming back to try. Again there is nothing wrong with donating. I donate to several charities. I just don't trust UPS. They break a lot of laws and I don't feel comfortable giving them money for charity. And because I have a union I have that right. IF UPS management can't fix the problem I would start making calls to the union hall or local news station or politician. At some point what goes on between the brown walls needs to be exposed.
  16. Dragon

    Dragon Package Center Manager

    Nope, nothing. Just part of the job every year.

    I also have never been forced to give either.
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Obscured by Mirrors Staff Member

    I don't agree ... I think people should give to United Way but they shouldn't lose their job if they take it back.
  18. brownIEman

    brownIEman Well-Known Member

    Hoaxter, you are slipping. Let me help


    Anyhow. I highly doubt management in Nassau are "forced" to contribute, as that would be a rather easily provable violation of at least a couple laws. I have no doubt they are highly encouraged to donate, but if they do not have the stones to see the difference, they really should not be in management in the first place.
    Which brings me to another point. Yes, you do have the right not to contribute money through UPS, and you have the right to not be retaliated against for exercising your right not to donate. Both of these come from federal laws. Not from your union membership. There are millions of non-union workers (including UPS management) who share that right.
    Saying you have that right because you have a union is like saying you have the right to breath air because you have a union. Both are quite silly if you take a minute and actually think logically about them. However, my sense is that when it comes to statements that are either Pro-Teamsters, or Anti-UPS management, you stopped thinking logically a long time ago.

    On a positive note, I think your advice about going straight to an HR manager is aces.
  19. washington57

    washington57 New Member

    Have you ever not given as full time management?
  20. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    a good feeling out of helping the less fortunate? No job benifit. Its not tracked on any reports that in any way affect pay and performance ratings.

    with the computerized system It could be real easy for someone to miskey an employee number. The person doing the keying in should verify the employee name before submitting it but it looks like they did a sloppy job on it.

    you can put a stop on it and get your money refunded if that is where your heart is.

    I always find it funny that the advice here is always to assume dishonesty but yet the same people making that assumption would hate it if management always assumed dishonesty about them.