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<blockquote data-quote="Fredless" data-source="post: 246081" data-attributes="member: 5197"><p><strong><u>Car washers in the SOUTHERN REGION:</u></strong></p><p> </p><p>Open to page 190 of the contract, article 53 of the supplement.</p><p> </p><p><u><em>"Rubber boots will be made available for carwashers."</em></u></p><p> </p><p>I had a carwasher complain to me that he personal boots/shoes were getting torn up and the soles keep coming off because of the diesel fuel on the ground near the gas pumps (just normal spillage). The person asked me if there was anything that could be done? I dug through the contract and found this sentence. Just addressed it with her supervisor, didn't even know it was there, and he went on OASIS and ordered some boots for her. She's happy as can be now.</p><p> </p><p>Read the next paragraph about uniform, if you don't meet the public you can wear almost whatever you want. Females (or males?<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" />) you are entitled to a work apron. I have a few clerks that choose to wear these aprons.<em><u> "..primary job involves handling and processing of packages, will be provided with a work apron UPON REQUEST."</u></em></p><p> </p><p><em>Back to carwashers</em>:</p><p><u><strong>Q:</strong></u> Oh crap, I just hit a package car trying to park a package car. No one saw, I don't have to tell right? How can they prove this?</p><p> </p><p><strong><u>A:</u></strong> WRONG. ALWAYS, ALWAYS report accidents even if its a cracked mirror or paint scratch. Its much better for you to just get an ass chewing, or even a warning letter versus LOSING your job immediately. I lost a carwasher recently because of this. The employee, whose been at the job for a long time and an excellent employee and his supervisor stuck up for him as well in front of loss prevention - regardless, he did not report the accident. They questioned all of the car washers, no one snitched but when the person who did it, did the RIGHT thing by admitting it during the meeting.</p><p> </p><p>Why did he lose his job that night? Open to page 188 (southern region) article 52, <strong><u>not reporting an accident is a cardinal sin.</u></strong> Meaning, they don't have to go through the steps of discilpline to terminate. The LP said "here, we want you to write a statement. It gives you a chance to tell your side of the story and it may help your case. BUT, you do not have to if you don't want to. I cannot force you to do this." I asked management to go outside and I told the member "DO NOT, DO NOT DO NOT write this statement. You pay union dues to tell a story through the union. If you write this statement, they have on paper that you ADMIT to doing this and NOT reporting it. Don't sign anything during this meeting either. If you WRITE THIS STATEMENT AGAINST YOURSELF you will lose your job tonight." Employee says ok, I won't.</p><p> </p><p>What does he do when LP comes back in and AGAIN re-iterates the employee does not have to write it, but it will help his case to the company. Just like Lucifer tricking Eve into eating the apple to be equal with God.. The employee picks up the pen and starts writing. I was in shock.</p><p> </p><p>Well they go back outside the office after several phone calls, I immediately hand him a greivance at this point and tell him what he needs to write give him my cell number etc.. so they come back in with more management and his PITS file and separation forms. LP states "<em>since we have a <strong>written statement</strong> saying you did not report the accident</em>, we are terminating your employment. Hand over your ID card and any UPS property you may have."</p><p> </p><p>Luckily, he didn't sign anything else. Point is, <strong><u>DO NOT EVER, AND I MEAN EVER, WRITE A STATEMENT AGAINST ANOTHER UNION MEMBER AND THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF.</u></strong> I could not believe this employee wrote a statement against themself! If its theft or cardinal sin issue, I don't know for sure how the "guilty knowledge" thing works. I'm ignorant on that subject, maybeone someone can chime in. I'd have to call the BA if I ever had a theft issue and the company knew there were wittnesses on the thief and wanted statements from them.</p><p> </p><p>Basically, the person lost their job that night because of a stroke of a pen by their own doing. I hope we can get his job back, but its going to be MUCH more difficult that the company now has a written statement from the person.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fredless, post: 246081, member: 5197"] [B][U]Car washers in the SOUTHERN REGION:[/U][/B] Open to page 190 of the contract, article 53 of the supplement. [U][I]"Rubber boots will be made available for carwashers."[/I][/U] I had a carwasher complain to me that he personal boots/shoes were getting torn up and the soles keep coming off because of the diesel fuel on the ground near the gas pumps (just normal spillage). The person asked me if there was anything that could be done? I dug through the contract and found this sentence. Just addressed it with her supervisor, didn't even know it was there, and he went on OASIS and ordered some boots for her. She's happy as can be now. Read the next paragraph about uniform, if you don't meet the public you can wear almost whatever you want. Females (or males?:laugh:) you are entitled to a work apron. I have a few clerks that choose to wear these aprons.[I][U] "..primary job involves handling and processing of packages, will be provided with a work apron UPON REQUEST."[/U][/I] [I]Back to carwashers[/I]: [U][B]Q:[/B][/U] Oh crap, I just hit a package car trying to park a package car. No one saw, I don't have to tell right? How can they prove this? [B][U]A:[/U][/B] WRONG. ALWAYS, ALWAYS report accidents even if its a cracked mirror or paint scratch. Its much better for you to just get an ass chewing, or even a warning letter versus LOSING your job immediately. I lost a carwasher recently because of this. The employee, whose been at the job for a long time and an excellent employee and his supervisor stuck up for him as well in front of loss prevention - regardless, he did not report the accident. They questioned all of the car washers, no one snitched but when the person who did it, did the RIGHT thing by admitting it during the meeting. Why did he lose his job that night? Open to page 188 (southern region) article 52, [B][U]not reporting an accident is a cardinal sin.[/U][/B] Meaning, they don't have to go through the steps of discilpline to terminate. The LP said "here, we want you to write a statement. It gives you a chance to tell your side of the story and it may help your case. BUT, you do not have to if you don't want to. I cannot force you to do this." I asked management to go outside and I told the member "DO NOT, DO NOT DO NOT write this statement. You pay union dues to tell a story through the union. If you write this statement, they have on paper that you ADMIT to doing this and NOT reporting it. Don't sign anything during this meeting either. If you WRITE THIS STATEMENT AGAINST YOURSELF you will lose your job tonight." Employee says ok, I won't. What does he do when LP comes back in and AGAIN re-iterates the employee does not have to write it, but it will help his case to the company. Just like Lucifer tricking Eve into eating the apple to be equal with God.. The employee picks up the pen and starts writing. I was in shock. Well they go back outside the office after several phone calls, I immediately hand him a greivance at this point and tell him what he needs to write give him my cell number etc.. so they come back in with more management and his PITS file and separation forms. LP states "[I]since we have a [B]written statement[/B] saying you did not report the accident[/I], we are terminating your employment. Hand over your ID card and any UPS property you may have." Luckily, he didn't sign anything else. Point is, [B][U]DO NOT EVER, AND I MEAN EVER, WRITE A STATEMENT AGAINST ANOTHER UNION MEMBER AND THAT INCLUDES YOURSELF.[/U][/B] I could not believe this employee wrote a statement against themself! If its theft or cardinal sin issue, I don't know for sure how the "guilty knowledge" thing works. I'm ignorant on that subject, maybeone someone can chime in. I'd have to call the BA if I ever had a theft issue and the company knew there were wittnesses on the thief and wanted statements from them. Basically, the person lost their job that night because of a stroke of a pen by their own doing. I hope we can get his job back, but its going to be MUCH more difficult that the company now has a written statement from the person. [/QUOTE]
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