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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 256190" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Rocky,</p><p> </p><p>With all due respect for your moral standards. Let me chine in with a little introspect of what would happen to you in my local if you went against one of my brothers or sisters that ultimately in collaboration with management cost them there jobs.</p><p> </p><p>First, depending on what you provided, accurate or inaccurate remember that you took an OATH to the Teamsters to protect each other from harm and to never violate the sanctity of brotherhood.</p><p> </p><p>That being said, you have a choice to make. While it may conflict with your "moral standards", you still have to make a choice. That choice will have consequences.</p><p> </p><p>As an "Officer" of the local, I would first summon you to the local to face the executive board and explain your actions, then after giving you the time to express your moral highground, I would motion the board to first fine you one days pay for every week the terminated brother was out of his job, then if the term was upheld in arbitration, and the company called you in as a witness to testify against your teamster brother, I would then motion the board to pull your union card and send you packing.</p><p> </p><p>At some later point, when you needed us most, you would find the effort to be somewhat resultless and ultimately you too would out of a job.</p><p> </p><p>Quite honestly, I dont like those who choose to openly "out" a fellow Teamster. If the company wants to prove its case, let "them" do so without putting yourself in a position having to chose between loyalty to your brothers and sisters and your paycheck. There is no reward from the company for being a snitch.</p><p> </p><p>In all reality, whats sounds better?</p><p> </p><p>a: honey, I just snitched on an employee today and the company told me I did a great job!!!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/thumbup1.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup1:" title="Thumbup1 :thumbup1:" data-shortname=":thumbup1:" /></p><p> </p><p>b: honey, I just came back from facing the executive board of the Teamsters and I will lose $245.00 a day for every week this employee is out cause I snitched on him and it looks like he will be out 60 days waiting for arbitration and then If I am called as a witness, the consequences could be worse than that, But on a good note, the company said I did a great thing! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/crying.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":crying:" title="Crying :crying:" data-shortname=":crying:" /></p><p> </p><p>Dont be foolish.</p><p> </p><p>Ultimately, yes you must look in the mirror every morning, but the real test is facing your spouse and kids and telling them youre a snitch.</p><p> </p><p>Give your morals a break. The price to pay for them is too high.</p><p> </p><p>As for employee misconduct, there may be cases where it is important to say something so correction is involved. My suggestion is to contact your agent (BA) and tell him first privately, give him the chance to speak to the employee privately without mentioning names and see if the problem goes away. </p><p> </p><p>If not, speak to HR privately. </p><p> </p><p>If that doesnt solve the problem, and it affects you DIRECTLY, then speak to management.</p><p> </p><p>If it doesnt affect you DIRECTLY, STFU and let the company run its business.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/mad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-shortname=":mad:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 256190, member: 12148"] Rocky, With all due respect for your moral standards. Let me chine in with a little introspect of what would happen to you in my local if you went against one of my brothers or sisters that ultimately in collaboration with management cost them there jobs. First, depending on what you provided, accurate or inaccurate remember that you took an OATH to the Teamsters to protect each other from harm and to never violate the sanctity of brotherhood. That being said, you have a choice to make. While it may conflict with your "moral standards", you still have to make a choice. That choice will have consequences. As an "Officer" of the local, I would first summon you to the local to face the executive board and explain your actions, then after giving you the time to express your moral highground, I would motion the board to first fine you one days pay for every week the terminated brother was out of his job, then if the term was upheld in arbitration, and the company called you in as a witness to testify against your teamster brother, I would then motion the board to pull your union card and send you packing. At some later point, when you needed us most, you would find the effort to be somewhat resultless and ultimately you too would out of a job. Quite honestly, I dont like those who choose to openly "out" a fellow Teamster. If the company wants to prove its case, let "them" do so without putting yourself in a position having to chose between loyalty to your brothers and sisters and your paycheck. There is no reward from the company for being a snitch. In all reality, whats sounds better? a: honey, I just snitched on an employee today and the company told me I did a great job!!!:thumbup1: b: honey, I just came back from facing the executive board of the Teamsters and I will lose $245.00 a day for every week this employee is out cause I snitched on him and it looks like he will be out 60 days waiting for arbitration and then If I am called as a witness, the consequences could be worse than that, But on a good note, the company said I did a great thing! :crying: Dont be foolish. Ultimately, yes you must look in the mirror every morning, but the real test is facing your spouse and kids and telling them youre a snitch. Give your morals a break. The price to pay for them is too high. As for employee misconduct, there may be cases where it is important to say something so correction is involved. My suggestion is to contact your agent (BA) and tell him first privately, give him the chance to speak to the employee privately without mentioning names and see if the problem goes away. If not, speak to HR privately. If that doesnt solve the problem, and it affects you DIRECTLY, then speak to management. If it doesnt affect you DIRECTLY, STFU and let the company run its business. Peace.:mad: [/QUOTE]
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