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<blockquote data-quote="Feederquacker" data-source="post: 1840075" data-attributes="member: 52639"><p>Not taking up for the guy at all but something has been lost in this discussion. As I remember, it took a very long time to get Overnight to Unionize. Those employees didn't want the Union. As a matter of fact, they didn't Unionize until after UPS bought them. This guy seems to be one of the hold overs from the Pre-UPS era. I'm guessing he doesn't see too much of an upside to being Union yet. (They are very early on in this process.) he sounds like he was content with what he had. Now, being told that since it's now a Union company, you have to start paying in is upsetting to him. Most of us if not all of us on here came to the Union with the understanding that dues are going to be paid. He was already there not having to pay dues and now he's being told he doesn't have the choice. To be honest, I'm not sure I would like it either if one day I saw money being taken from me for an organization that I didn't want in the first place. The thing is, if he stays, I'll bet in the next 12 months, he will need the Union and will join willingly. I'm just not comfortable calling him names if he wasn't a willing participant to start with. </p><p></p><p>I've been a Union member for more than two decades. I've been a Steward twice and helped on local campaigns and done my share of organizing. I've seen a lot of people that didn't want to join. I've also seen those same people hang around longer than five years and join because they finally see the benefit the Union can and does offer. I'd just say to give him time. It's hard for the members up north to accept this concept of willingly sign up because of living in a RTW state. I get that. I too am in a RTW state and it is a very hard concept for most people here to understand or accept the idea that since you don't live in a RTW state, as a condition of employment, you must pay a percentage of your wages to an organization you may or may not agree with. Keep that in mind before you start swinging the pitch forks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Feederquacker, post: 1840075, member: 52639"] Not taking up for the guy at all but something has been lost in this discussion. As I remember, it took a very long time to get Overnight to Unionize. Those employees didn't want the Union. As a matter of fact, they didn't Unionize until after UPS bought them. This guy seems to be one of the hold overs from the Pre-UPS era. I'm guessing he doesn't see too much of an upside to being Union yet. (They are very early on in this process.) he sounds like he was content with what he had. Now, being told that since it's now a Union company, you have to start paying in is upsetting to him. Most of us if not all of us on here came to the Union with the understanding that dues are going to be paid. He was already there not having to pay dues and now he's being told he doesn't have the choice. To be honest, I'm not sure I would like it either if one day I saw money being taken from me for an organization that I didn't want in the first place. The thing is, if he stays, I'll bet in the next 12 months, he will need the Union and will join willingly. I'm just not comfortable calling him names if he wasn't a willing participant to start with. I've been a Union member for more than two decades. I've been a Steward twice and helped on local campaigns and done my share of organizing. I've seen a lot of people that didn't want to join. I've also seen those same people hang around longer than five years and join because they finally see the benefit the Union can and does offer. I'd just say to give him time. It's hard for the members up north to accept this concept of willingly sign up because of living in a RTW state. I get that. I too am in a RTW state and it is a very hard concept for most people here to understand or accept the idea that since you don't live in a RTW state, as a condition of employment, you must pay a percentage of your wages to an organization you may or may not agree with. Keep that in mind before you start swinging the pitch forks. [/QUOTE]
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