Union member responsibility

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by clarnzz, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. clarnzz

    clarnzz Member

    I was wondering if most people felt it was the responsibility of every union member to document every violation of the contract of the management team?

    I usually just fight if something affects me. *ducks*

    If you feel this way do you feel it's managements responsibility to document every methods or policy violation by employees?
  2. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    It's a two way street. You pick your battles or be ready to toe the line everyday..
  3. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Remember the members are the union if we want to be strong we have to stand strong together. Does his answer your question???
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Yeah ...I think it means the stewards stand around looking strong while their minions do all the work?
  5. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    United we stand devided we fall.
  6. clarnzz

    clarnzz Member

    I hear ya, I just have three young kids who all have extracuricular activities. I do not have the free time to devote to fighting the machine and trying to help people who don't want help. I really wish some of the older drivers who have the spare time would put up more of a fight, but they just seem to be coasting towards retirement hoping for as little resistance as possible.

    We used to have two great shop stewards who fought their butts off. Forced the company not to allow drivers in their load before their start time, etc.... Eventually they became frustrated with our B.A. as well as the other drivers and both stepped down, now both our shop stewards have less than 3 years driving seniority.

    The union presence in my building is very weak and it's unfortunate, it's basically every man for himself....
  7. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    No, we don't have water coolers to worry about keeping upright.
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

  9. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    Kinda like our management. They all get into a circle, but I can never make out who's in the middle. I think its a Gangsta though.
  10. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    You're truly "rocketing" to the top with this posting style.
  11. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Don't lean to far out that window to look down on us or you'll fall out of the ivory tower.
  12. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    Pivot men never fall, the circle is always there to catch them !!!
  13. Omega man

    Omega man Active Member

    How are you different from everybody else? We all have obligations outside of work. When members stand by and let others fight all the battles it just weakens us all. Our union is only as strong as the weakest link. The best thing you can do to help your steward is by doing what the Union asks of all of us. Don't cut deals with management, follow the contract at all times and don't cut corners for selfish needs.
  14. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Not necessarily every violation (I don't believe in documenting every little thing because management is usually the same way.. people in my hub aren't necessarily written up for being a few minutes late if it isn't a regular thing, etc.), but I do wish more rank-and-file members would hammer management on 1) supervisors stealing bargaining unit work and 2) management harassing them/their co-workers. Just about everything else can be brought to a steward's attention and adjusted without filing a grievance, but they tend to only cut back on #'s 1 & 2 when they start getting nailed with paperwork. I can't stand someone not being able to get a job or get a preferred job because union members stand around watching supervisors work.
  15. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Many of our stewards ( I can name at least four offhand) do the opposite of this, so where is the correct example of union behaviour supposed to be established?
  16. UnsurePost

    UnsurePost making the unreadable unreadabler

    Falling and landing on feeder dept. will soften the impact.
  17. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    What a little child! Lmao!!
  18. Fullhouse

    Fullhouse Member

    Nothingwrong with bringing the violation to their attention, at least you have given them a chance to correct their actions. Then, if they do it again file! Sort of like progressive disapline, we don't need to show them the door, sort of speak. We just want them to know, that we are observing them and and we don't mind applying discipline. Role reversal, they do not like!
  19. CanonPowerlifter

    CanonPowerlifter New Member

    id honestly pick and choose my battles carefully but, i will remember...
  20. packageguy

    packageguy Well-Known Member

    We fight the battles, we grieve it, we have guys that do safety but in there trucks fingerf***king the load. start before start time, we grieve them to. building manager still asking to work with them, we say just pay the grievence.