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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1097192" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>Inthegame,</p><p></p><p>Thank you for your comments and "critical skilled independent thinking". The one item I do have to correct you on is your "assumption" that it was my intention to start a political debate. Pure and simple, my intention was to collect and analyze the thoughts of individuals here on BrownCafe. <u>I am NOT here to get "likes"</u> because I truly do not care if someone does not "like" the topics I bring up or comment on.</p><p></p><p>A little about myself:</p><p></p><p>1) I am not a mindless UPS Teamster cheerleader who blindly follows every word I hear from my Union. There are too many times in my 35 year career at UPS that I was DEEPLY disappointed in the way our Union handled various matters regarding discharges and other clear cut contract violations. There were clearly "other" things going on behind closed doors that were nefarious to say the least.</p><p></p><p>2) I am NOT at ALL beloved by our Local UPS management. I am however respected because of the way I handle workplace issues and grievances. </p><p></p><p>3 ) I am NOT a "TDU'er". I do believe however that opposing views keep people and matters in check. Nothing is more motivating in life than having an opponent. Competition makes us stronger and better. If UPS had no competition, would we be the company that we are today? I don't believe so. The concept of competition applies to everything in life right down to which mate you choose in life. Darwin....Survival of the Fittest...etc.. </p><p></p><p>4) I am a person who attempts to look at ALL VIEWS.... both from the management perspective AND from the hourly perspective. I give all management 100% of my respect from the first moment I meet them. It is up to that management person retain that 100% respect. If for some reason, that management person turns out to be a TRULY incompetent, "me against the Union" individual, I will do everything in my power to slowly take that management person apart......in a W-I-D-E variety of ways. I once had an old car washer give me some excellent advice.. "Don't get MAD...Get EVEN"..</p><p></p><p>5) I own and operate a successful business. Having your own business gives you a totally different perspective on business matters. There are MANY "hidden" costs to operating a business that most employees never realize. (like the matching Social Security for example) </p><p></p><p>6) I want nothing more than to IMPROVE our UNION. I totally dislike the way our UNION constantly portrays us workers. Our magazine always shows Teamster members holding picket signs with Hoffa standing in front of everyone. If the picture were black and white...and from the 50's, 60's, and 70's....then I might understand. But today is 2013 and we NEED to represent the TEAMSTERS in a much more dignified manner. We MUST start winning the PR war with the general public if Unions want to make a comeback. Did anyone view our Teamster magazine with HOFFA standing in FRONT of President Obama? How narcissistic can one be?</p><p></p><p>7) In regard to your statement, "Scott Davis is welcome to whatever Comp package the Board decides, and the shareholders should get good dividends from their investment but if one employee or retiree has to lose so that happens, I'll welcome the chance to hold a picket sign. Enough is enough.":</p><p></p><p>Congratulations.....you got 3 likes. UPS employees have been "losing" in ALL contracts since 1997 yet we voted to accept those contracts...hmm Just ask the part-timers who still start at $8.50 and have no family benefits for 18 months....... oh...and don't forget those part-timers who have been waiting for 10+ years to go driving but have been held back because of things like SUREPOST......(whatever happened to no subcontracting in our CURRENT agreement?).. extra volume on existing drivers (over 9.5)...harassment, intimidation, etc..</p><p> </p><p>In summary, I am not a "troll" here at BrownCafe, I am not trying to divide our Union, I simply want to stimulate some healthy debate on what can make our Union better and stronger. Unions are NOT going to get stronger by patting each other on the back for making popular statements. We MUST acknowledge and correct our weaknesses which may and most likely will include being "constructively critical" of our leaders and ourselves. This is a critical point in time for Unions in America. We MUST change the way WE are perceived by the general public. WE must convince our non-union competitors such as Fed-Ex that it would be in their best interest to join our Union. I for one, want to do more for our Union than to stand at the roadside in August with a picket sign. Healthy and productive negotiation is the only way that UPS and the Teamsters will continue to coexist now and in the future.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1097192, member: 31414"] Inthegame, Thank you for your comments and "critical skilled independent thinking". The one item I do have to correct you on is your "assumption" that it was my intention to start a political debate. Pure and simple, my intention was to collect and analyze the thoughts of individuals here on BrownCafe. [U]I am NOT here to get "likes"[/U] because I truly do not care if someone does not "like" the topics I bring up or comment on. A little about myself: 1) I am not a mindless UPS Teamster cheerleader who blindly follows every word I hear from my Union. There are too many times in my 35 year career at UPS that I was DEEPLY disappointed in the way our Union handled various matters regarding discharges and other clear cut contract violations. There were clearly "other" things going on behind closed doors that were nefarious to say the least. 2) I am NOT at ALL beloved by our Local UPS management. I am however respected because of the way I handle workplace issues and grievances. 3 ) I am NOT a "TDU'er". I do believe however that opposing views keep people and matters in check. Nothing is more motivating in life than having an opponent. Competition makes us stronger and better. If UPS had no competition, would we be the company that we are today? I don't believe so. The concept of competition applies to everything in life right down to which mate you choose in life. Darwin....Survival of the Fittest...etc.. 4) I am a person who attempts to look at ALL VIEWS.... both from the management perspective AND from the hourly perspective. I give all management 100% of my respect from the first moment I meet them. It is up to that management person retain that 100% respect. If for some reason, that management person turns out to be a TRULY incompetent, "me against the Union" individual, I will do everything in my power to slowly take that management person apart......in a W-I-D-E variety of ways. I once had an old car washer give me some excellent advice.. "Don't get MAD...Get EVEN".. 5) I own and operate a successful business. Having your own business gives you a totally different perspective on business matters. There are MANY "hidden" costs to operating a business that most employees never realize. (like the matching Social Security for example) 6) I want nothing more than to IMPROVE our UNION. I totally dislike the way our UNION constantly portrays us workers. Our magazine always shows Teamster members holding picket signs with Hoffa standing in front of everyone. If the picture were black and white...and from the 50's, 60's, and 70's....then I might understand. But today is 2013 and we NEED to represent the TEAMSTERS in a much more dignified manner. We MUST start winning the PR war with the general public if Unions want to make a comeback. Did anyone view our Teamster magazine with HOFFA standing in FRONT of President Obama? How narcissistic can one be? 7) In regard to your statement, "Scott Davis is welcome to whatever Comp package the Board decides, and the shareholders should get good dividends from their investment but if one employee or retiree has to lose so that happens, I'll welcome the chance to hold a picket sign. Enough is enough.": Congratulations.....you got 3 likes. UPS employees have been "losing" in ALL contracts since 1997 yet we voted to accept those contracts...hmm Just ask the part-timers who still start at $8.50 and have no family benefits for 18 months....... oh...and don't forget those part-timers who have been waiting for 10+ years to go driving but have been held back because of things like SUREPOST......(whatever happened to no subcontracting in our CURRENT agreement?).. extra volume on existing drivers (over 9.5)...harassment, intimidation, etc.. In summary, I am not a "troll" here at BrownCafe, I am not trying to divide our Union, I simply want to stimulate some healthy debate on what can make our Union better and stronger. Unions are NOT going to get stronger by patting each other on the back for making popular statements. We MUST acknowledge and correct our weaknesses which may and most likely will include being "constructively critical" of our leaders and ourselves. This is a critical point in time for Unions in America. We MUST change the way WE are perceived by the general public. WE must convince our non-union competitors such as Fed-Ex that it would be in their best interest to join our Union. I for one, want to do more for our Union than to stand at the roadside in August with a picket sign. Healthy and productive negotiation is the only way that UPS and the Teamsters will continue to coexist now and in the future. [/QUOTE]
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