I talked to an acquaintance who was in attendance of the tdu convention. Him and I don't always agree but we put differences aside. He told me he was embarrassed at the turnout. He said it was pretty well run but he said the people nor the money ain't there. He said it seemed like a whole bunch of misdirection and ra ra about nothing. I asked him about how many principle officers were there and he counted 8. Anyway good luck with that.