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<blockquote data-quote="EyesLookingIn" data-source="post: 794293" data-attributes="member: 29664"><p><strong>Re: *UPDATE UPS LAYS OFF ALL AIR DRIVERS IN MANHATTAN 43RD St building and Manhattan</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Great questions , I'm not an expert but any delivery work is full time drivers work first , I'll try to explain what the language means ( i hope ) 15 years ago UPS stopped drivers from del Eam because drivers were dispatched at around 8-8:15 am , so since the routes were ready to go out at that time , if drivers went to del Eam there routes would sit there for almost an hour until they got back , delaying the routes from going out , and we were told by 804 at the time we lost that fight. (total BS , I felt that there was nothing wrong with the routes sitting waiting for the drivers to come back maybe then all the packages would be loaded correctly ) but now drivers are leaving the buildings like 9am plenty of time for drivers to del Eam's and be back by 9am. So when you read this <strong>because of time and customer commitments, cannot be reasonably performed by regular package drivers.</strong> yes all 9 tasks should go to the drivers but some of it can't be reasonably performed , thats why it also says <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Such work MAY include.. </strong>To answer your second Q ,, you are right the drivers could do most of that work but that would mean putting on a lot of more full timers and paying the drivers a lot more overtime plus Saturday may not be 8 hours work but drivers guarantee is 8 hours. Where the fight always comes into play is that to the union <strong>reasonably performed</strong> means having the time to do it and still do ones route. to UPS <strong>reasonably performed</strong> means how much will it cost to get it done. I feel that Local 804 didn't care about what was going on because all the drivers were getting over 8 hours , so the idea of putting on 300 - 500 p/t air drivers in metro NY 15 years ago meant more union dues coming into the union so why fight for 100 new driver jobs. I do think it was good to get those p/t jobs at the time but now UPS is only looking at being productive on paper not the cost. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>So now all the p/t air drivers that went out of there way to make sure the airs got delivered on-time for years and years and helped build this company are being told by UPS friend-U we don't need you any more, good old UPS....TIME FOR EVER COSTUMER TO GET THERE MONEY BACK ON A LATE AIR.</strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">hope this helped......</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EyesLookingIn, post: 794293, member: 29664"] [b]Re: *UPDATE UPS LAYS OFF ALL AIR DRIVERS IN MANHATTAN 43RD St building and Manhattan[/b] Great questions , I'm not an expert but any delivery work is full time drivers work first , I'll try to explain what the language means ( i hope ) 15 years ago UPS stopped drivers from del Eam because drivers were dispatched at around 8-8:15 am , so since the routes were ready to go out at that time , if drivers went to del Eam there routes would sit there for almost an hour until they got back , delaying the routes from going out , and we were told by 804 at the time we lost that fight. (total BS , I felt that there was nothing wrong with the routes sitting waiting for the drivers to come back maybe then all the packages would be loaded correctly ) but now drivers are leaving the buildings like 9am plenty of time for drivers to del Eam's and be back by 9am. So when you read this [B]because of time and customer commitments, cannot be reasonably performed by regular package drivers.[/B] yes all 9 tasks should go to the drivers but some of it can't be reasonably performed , thats why it also says [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]Such work MAY include.. [/B]To answer your second Q ,, you are right the drivers could do most of that work but that would mean putting on a lot of more full timers and paying the drivers a lot more overtime plus Saturday may not be 8 hours work but drivers guarantee is 8 hours. Where the fight always comes into play is that to the union [B]reasonably performed[/B] means having the time to do it and still do ones route. to UPS [B]reasonably performed[/B] means how much will it cost to get it done. I feel that Local 804 didn't care about what was going on because all the drivers were getting over 8 hours , so the idea of putting on 300 - 500 p/t air drivers in metro NY 15 years ago meant more union dues coming into the union so why fight for 100 new driver jobs. I do think it was good to get those p/t jobs at the time but now UPS is only looking at being productive on paper not the cost. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]So now all the p/t air drivers that went out of there way to make sure the airs got delivered on-time for years and years and helped build this company are being told by UPS friend-U we don't need you any more, good old UPS....TIME FOR EVER COSTUMER TO GET THERE MONEY BACK ON A LATE AIR.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]hope this helped......[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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