Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
UPS Bargaining Suspended
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="RockyRogue" data-source="post: 226227" data-attributes="member: 7185"><p>Wow, I'm a little behind! Let's see....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Nope, not gonna tell you're wrong, Hondo. The Sunday start for my sort is really a pain in the A** because of the number of call-ins. That's when its <em>really</em> bad. My understanding is that for Sunday, people just don't show for double-shifting. Is <em>that</em> management's fault??? I'm not upset at the steward for protecting hourlies as far as double-shifting. I'm more upset at him for trying to drag <em>me</em> into his fight with UPS management. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes and no, Red. In Denver, some will work <em>only</em> to help an hourly--pulling irregs, for one. Another might hop into a container 10 minutes before downtime to try to clear it. The steward happened to see that one and told the supervisor to stop. <strong><em>Livid</em></strong> doesn't even describe the supervisor's face. Sometimes sups will work because of staffing. It's getting to the point on my sort--Sunday start--that <em>I'm</em> getting p*ssed off because of the number of call-ins. By the way, Red, I <em>did</em> get written-up today--with a steward present--for being late twice in the last two weeks. I signed a sheet in the binder. I'm told the write-up would never stand up in a grievance hearing but I'm not going there. I made a <em>mistake </em>and accepted <strong><em>responsibility</em></strong> for it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Half an area? LMAO! Sorry, Tie, but I just had a flashback to the other day when 75% of an area didn't show--call in or no call. That was a really frustrating night. I had words with a p/t sup over it, by the way, Red. And thanks for the defense, Tie. Not <em>everyone</em> likes to fight with management. The adversarial relationship is really a thing of the past--or it should be. And Red, I still refuse to participate in BULLSHINE grievances. Reasonable, accurate and grounded in reality grievances? ABSOULUTELY!!! I'm behind ya 100%. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>This I would agree with. The sups on my sort are as bad as Red describes Chicago being. I've worked another sort and the guy seems to only work when he <em>has</em> to. And Tie, the p/t sup I keep mentioning worked to make her numbers better. No other reason. She pretty much told me once that she was <em>ordered</em> to work, a claim I just don't completely buy. Short-staffing is a routine occurence in this operation. Double-shifting isn't even enough to cover the vacations and call-ins. One side of the building looks like it went a round--a losing one, by the way--with a nuclear attack! This is <em>even</em> with supervisors working and looking more like hourlies than supervisors! </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Nope, I can not agree with this statement, sir. I <strong><em>never</em></strong> saw this particular tactic at my suburban Chicago hub. I have a relative working in a Chicago hub and have never heard of this. I feel bad for him already but to have a BA come up and start screaming at him...I feel doubly bad. I'd honestly find it pretty amusing to see this effort in Denver<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/laugh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" />. The <em>only</em> time I can recall a BA being in my Chicago hub--and I'm honestly certain they were there <em>much</em> more--was when he screamed at a p/t sup to stop helping an hourly pull an irreg out of a container. They stop for the day when told by the steward here. It frustrated the h*ll out of the unload supervisor. I saw p/t and friend/t supervisors talking in hushed tones on catwalks, the p/t sup obviously quite angry. Sadly, Tie, it was amusing, though I personally never contributed to the frustration. -Rocky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyRogue, post: 226227, member: 7185"] Wow, I'm a little behind! Let's see.... Nope, not gonna tell you're wrong, Hondo. The Sunday start for my sort is really a pain in the A** because of the number of call-ins. That's when its [I]really[/I] bad. My understanding is that for Sunday, people just don't show for double-shifting. Is [I]that[/I] management's fault??? I'm not upset at the steward for protecting hourlies as far as double-shifting. I'm more upset at him for trying to drag [I]me[/I] into his fight with UPS management. Yes and no, Red. In Denver, some will work [I]only[/I] to help an hourly--pulling irregs, for one. Another might hop into a container 10 minutes before downtime to try to clear it. The steward happened to see that one and told the supervisor to stop. [B][I]Livid[/I][/B] doesn't even describe the supervisor's face. Sometimes sups will work because of staffing. It's getting to the point on my sort--Sunday start--that [I]I'm[/I] getting p*ssed off because of the number of call-ins. By the way, Red, I [I]did[/I] get written-up today--with a steward present--for being late twice in the last two weeks. I signed a sheet in the binder. I'm told the write-up would never stand up in a grievance hearing but I'm not going there. I made a [I]mistake [/I]and accepted [B][I]responsibility[/I][/B] for it. Half an area? LMAO! Sorry, Tie, but I just had a flashback to the other day when 75% of an area didn't show--call in or no call. That was a really frustrating night. I had words with a p/t sup over it, by the way, Red. And thanks for the defense, Tie. Not [I]everyone[/I] likes to fight with management. The adversarial relationship is really a thing of the past--or it should be. And Red, I still refuse to participate in BULLSHINE grievances. Reasonable, accurate and grounded in reality grievances? ABSOULUTELY!!! I'm behind ya 100%. This I would agree with. The sups on my sort are as bad as Red describes Chicago being. I've worked another sort and the guy seems to only work when he [I]has[/I] to. And Tie, the p/t sup I keep mentioning worked to make her numbers better. No other reason. She pretty much told me once that she was [I]ordered[/I] to work, a claim I just don't completely buy. Short-staffing is a routine occurence in this operation. Double-shifting isn't even enough to cover the vacations and call-ins. One side of the building looks like it went a round--a losing one, by the way--with a nuclear attack! This is [I]even[/I] with supervisors working and looking more like hourlies than supervisors! Nope, I can not agree with this statement, sir. I [B][I]never[/I][/B] saw this particular tactic at my suburban Chicago hub. I have a relative working in a Chicago hub and have never heard of this. I feel bad for him already but to have a BA come up and start screaming at him...I feel doubly bad. I'd honestly find it pretty amusing to see this effort in Denver:laugh::laugh:. The [I]only[/I] time I can recall a BA being in my Chicago hub--and I'm honestly certain they were there [I]much[/I] more--was when he screamed at a p/t sup to stop helping an hourly pull an irreg out of a container. They stop for the day when told by the steward here. It frustrated the h*ll out of the unload supervisor. I saw p/t and friend/t supervisors talking in hushed tones on catwalks, the p/t sup obviously quite angry. Sadly, Tie, it was amusing, though I personally never contributed to the frustration. -Rocky [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
UPS Bargaining Suspended
Top