Ups contract/Orion

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Scorpion King, Sep 20, 2018.

  1. Scorpion King

    Scorpion King New Member

    Why isn’t getting rid of Orion in any of the negotiations, mgmt knows it’s garbage, drivers know it’s garbage. Winwin
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  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    The Union can not tell the company how to run it's business.
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  3. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    I honestly would have voted yes, but this ram-rodding of Orion has blown my mind. Made me realize, upper level management is :censored2:ing nuts.

    Only thing I can think of was that they did this so we (drivers) would work with management to "fix" the Orion Trace, thus making it "easier" for scabs to do our jobs.
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  4. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    ORION cannot be fixed.
    The underlying concept is irredeemably flawed.
    It is nothing but an exercise in forced stupidity for the sake of generating a compliance metric.
    They spent the money on it so they have to make believe that it works in order to justify the expense.
    The only workable “solution” would be to turn RDO back on and have the drivers hold all non-commit stops in prerecord, and then give their DIADS to a clerk at night whose job it would be to stop-complete the work in whatever order was needed to spoon-feed the desired compliance metric to the idiots in Atlanta who came up with this abortion.
    We get the work done, they get to see a number on a report. Win/win.
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  5. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Dumpster, INABAG

    In my opinion, ORION has always been a scare tactic, by the company, to make us believe anyone can do our job. You only have to look as far as PAL labels, and the idea “anyone” could be a preloader, to see how that works out.
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  7. eats packages

    eats packages I have depth perception issues

    Someone wrote kiss my :censored2: on one of my irregs and it made me giggle.
  8. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    You get paid by the hour. Work as directed.
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    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

  10. panchovilla

    panchovilla Member

    To me it’s funny that RDO was removed yet, I still rum my route my and no Supervisor will enforce ORION. Just waiting to see when they’ll start enforcing ORION so that I can laugh all the way to the bank$$$$.
  11. PeakMode

    PeakMode Arrive Peak Leave

    ODU, cannot be fixed. It doesn't account for any real life traffic situations. No such thing as a perfect day and/or perfect load every single day.
  12. vote yes!!!!

    vote yes!!!! Member

    RDO was taking out of the board months ago at my center, and it is a nightmare
  13. BUCN85

    BUCN85 Active Member

    I was off the other day and came back to find out the fill in for my route missed 3 commercial stops(almost 5) and then needed a couple pickups taken off of him. All because of following Orion
  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Orion can still be turned off.... if the company wants to.

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    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

  16. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    If I were a supervisor or center manager there's no way I'd take the risk of turning it off. Do you think upper management couldn't review the dispatch?

    Yer fired!
  17. tadpole

    tadpole Active Member

    No. GPS/timestamps would all be off, all air would show as late.
  18. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I can't disagree with that.

    I pulled this pic off a drivers facebook page and he was bragging how they can just

    walk into the dispatch office and change it themselves. And no one says anything.

    Others chimed in, and said it was being done in their location for "certain" routes.

    Either way.... it makes you say Hmmm....

  19. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    I’ve been told, “if you need Orion turned off on any route you’re doing, just ask the PDS”
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  20. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Duh. Otherwise peak would be terrible.