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<blockquote data-quote="705red" data-source="post: 439337" data-attributes="member: 5229">This is not just a job for most of us. You dont purchase homes, cars and raise a family on just a job. Those are serious decisions and knowing that you have a career behind alot easier to make them. &nbsp;You have not been at ups nearly enough time to understand what i am talking about, The majority of us have slaved working 2 and 3 jobs to get our shot at making a career out of it. The majority of us stood on picket lines protecting our careers, the majority of us understand the sacrafices and yes while we might complain from time to time that is our right as we have earned it in our career choice!&nbsp;You have what about a year in? And you feel that gives you the right on how to determine what is a ups job or career? &nbsp;What was your career before you came to ups or was it just a job?&nbsp;As a union steward that represents people that get fired, i see the pain in the peoples eyes. I understand how hard it is for them to go home and tell their wives that they have just been fired, i have been fired 3 times and im still here. Why? Because its obvious all 3 times it was not a terminating offense, and the union decides on if the company was wrong.&nbsp;I only wish jim would have waited and had his day at panel, but he didnt and for that i am truly sorry. And for those of you that say dont blame ups, bs, he was obviously taught how to do the pre recording by someone as i and other drivers have been. Some have the stones to say no i wont do this and others think they are helping their management team and do it and for what to get fired!&nbsp;I am so sorry for derailing this thread but this was on my mind, janice my prayers are with you and yours. RED</blockquote>

[QUOTE="705red, post: 439337, member: 5229"] This is not just a[B] job[/B] for most of us. You dont purchase homes, cars and raise a family on just a [B]job[/B]. Those are serious decisions and knowing that you have a [B]career[/B] behind alot easier to make them. You have not been at ups nearly enough time to understand what i am talking about, The majority of us have slaved working 2 and 3 [B]jobs[/B] to get our shot at making a [B]career[/B] out of it. The majority of us stood on picket lines protecting our [B]careers[/B], the majority of us understand the sacrafices and yes while we might complain from time to time that is our right as we have earned it in our [B]career[/B] choice! You have what about a year in? And you feel that gives you the right on how to determine what is a ups [B]job[/B] or [B]career[/B]? What was your [B]career [/B]before you came to ups or was it just a[B] job[/B]? As a union steward that represents people that get fired, i see the pain in the peoples eyes. I understand how hard it is for them to go home and tell their wives that they have just been fired, i have been fired 3 times and im still here. Why? Because its obvious all 3 times it was not a terminating offense, and the union decides on if the company was wrong. I only wish jim would have waited and had his day at panel, but he didnt and for that i am truly sorry. And for those of you that say dont blame ups, bs, he was obviously taught how to do the pre recording by someone as i and other drivers have been. Some have the stones to say no i wont do this and others think they are helping their management team and do it and for what to get fired! I am so sorry for derailing this thread but this was on my mind, janice my prayers are with you and yours. RED [/QUOTE]

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