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<blockquote data-quote="ok2bclever" data-source="post: 55463"><p>upsdude is right that none of your monthly union dues go towards your pension. A large portion of that money is used to run and maintain your local the balance is used by the International for the strike fund and to run and maintain the International.</p><p></p><p>Pension contributions come strictly from contributions forced onto the company by each successive negotiated contract.</p><p></p><p>I know using the word "forced" will tick off the fanatically loyal company men, but let's face the truth here.</p><p></p><p>If UPS wasn't forced to contribute they would stop today.</p><p></p><p>There are those who would argue that wouldn't be a bad thing, but it is the truth.</p><p></p><p>The "right to work" states was just a big business, big government anti-union move.</p><p></p><p>This will probably trigger a bunch of "my rights not to belong to a union" pontification, but frankly in my opinion you have that right simply by quiting and going to work for a non-union contractor as worldwide recently mentioned if you don't like it. I have been told that is what makes this country great. </p><p></p><p>If it was truly up to me I would let people decide whether they wanted to belong to the union and pay union dues in ALL states because I believe in the idea of freedom.</p><p></p><p>However, I also believe in assuming responsibility for your actions and decisions and believe if you don't belong to the union you have no right to representation by the union, none of the union negotiated rights and no union negotiated pension.</p><p></p><p>You should work out what you can with the company on your own regarding these various issues.</p><p></p><p>See how far that would get you in reality.</p><p></p><p>I think that would be fair, but it won't happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ok2bclever, post: 55463"] upsdude is right that none of your monthly union dues go towards your pension. A large portion of that money is used to run and maintain your local the balance is used by the International for the strike fund and to run and maintain the International. Pension contributions come strictly from contributions forced onto the company by each successive negotiated contract. I know using the word "forced" will tick off the fanatically loyal company men, but let's face the truth here. If UPS wasn't forced to contribute they would stop today. There are those who would argue that wouldn't be a bad thing, but it is the truth. The "right to work" states was just a big business, big government anti-union move. This will probably trigger a bunch of "my rights not to belong to a union" pontification, but frankly in my opinion you have that right simply by quiting and going to work for a non-union contractor as worldwide recently mentioned if you don't like it. I have been told that is what makes this country great. If it was truly up to me I would let people decide whether they wanted to belong to the union and pay union dues in ALL states because I believe in the idea of freedom. However, I also believe in assuming responsibility for your actions and decisions and believe if you don't belong to the union you have no right to representation by the union, none of the union negotiated rights and no union negotiated pension. You should work out what you can with the company on your own regarding these various issues. See how far that would get you in reality. I think that would be fair, but it won't happen. [/QUOTE]
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