We are in the middle of a very deep reccesion. There will be lay-offs at UPS I assume. I know as drivers we get paid top-dollar, but if UPS is going to suffer how do lesser delivery companies stay afloat? We work at least 5 times harder than any Fed-Ex driver and 10 times harder than any other courier or delivery service. Its funny to hear the Fed-Ex express or ground driver complain. The Fed-Ex driver's truck is always empty and the ground driver is half empty and is done by 3pm. I know he starts at 7 AM, but his truck is never full. He can walk through his truck every day. He can do back spins on his floor if he wanted to. I, along with almost every other UPS driver have trouble closing the doors on most days. I am busting out the back and front 4 out of 5 days a week. This begs a question I am very curious about. I wll limit the business to 1 route. A route for Fed-Ex ground and a route for UPS. The Fed-Ex ground can make money with a truck of 180 parcels and covers the area of 4 UPS routes. Then we have my route (an example for UPS) that delivers a minimum of 325 parcels and covers 1/4 of the Fed-Ex driver. How are we not VERY profitable? Add to this that we deliver our airs while Fed-Ex uses 2 vehicle. That means 2 insurances, 2 drivers, 2 fuels, etc. This example permeates the delivery world where I work. For a couple of dollars/hour more we do 4 times more than any Fed-Ex ground driver at the very least! We have to answer to our sup. for a .1 drop in SPHOR while Fed-Ex is making money with a UPS planned day of 5 hours. How are they making any money? Seriously, look at the Fed-Ex ground truck and it can't be more than a planned 5 hour UPS day! I like to day-dream of my on-car sup. doing a 3-day OJS ride with a Fed-Ex ground driver. It would be a rude awakeing to him and a hilarious sight to see! My guess is they would be done by noon and both would be twitling their thumbs for 3 hours! It proves the point that UPS has their priorities in the right place. You can criticize management all you want but they are light-years ahead of Fed-Ex. One example would be mis-deliveries. I haven't had one in 3 years. EDD has a lot to do with it but so does area knowledge. Our Fed-Ex ground driver leaves packages at stops where the don't belong every day. He is a nice guy but he is horrible at reading labels. I hear it all day long on the business part of my route. "Have you seen the Fed-Ex guy? he left a package here that belongs down the street" My goodness is he bad! If would have had warning letters and suspensions if I performed the way he does. Again, very nice guy but a total idiot.