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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 786439" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Upstate,</p><p> </p><p>Since you are such a heavy movie goer, have you seen "W"? I have to admit at first I did not because I thought it would be a slam job and I wasn't interested in that. However, I actually found the movie insightful and I came away having some sympathy for the guy and it really revolved around his relationship with his dad whom he couldn't please and his love for baseball which I also love the game. </p><p> </p><p>Bob Costas did an interview several years ago during the Bush years on his radio show with former baseball commiss. Fay Vincent and G.W. Bush came up in the conversation. It was pure luck and chance that I heard it but it turns out that during W's Texas Rangers years, he had thrown his name in for the Commiss job and tired to lobby Vincent and the late Bowie Kuhn to support his effort. According to Vincent himself, both he and Kuhn rejected W, and quite honestly he never IMO gave a real good reason why either, and not long after that, W made his decision to seek the governorship of Texas and the rest is as they say, political history. I do believe in my heart of hearts that the politics was just to please his dad and try and gain some favor with him but for W his heart was in baseball. </p><p> </p><p>After that interview, I always had empathy for W because I really felt he loved baseball and wanted the commiss job to feed that love (and not in bad way) but the motivation of Vincent and Kuhn to oppose him just seemed suspect to me. The movie also IMO suggested this as well (or it did to me) although pleasing his Dad seemed very important too. I also have always believed that W and Jimmy Carter both shared one very important common point and that is they both were heavily surrounded by the wrong people. </p><p> </p><p>When I saw W at the ALCS game in Texas, the man looked genuinely happy, content and most at ease as I've ever seen him. I've always wondered in the back of my mind did Vincent and Kuhn deprive us of a good baseball commiss but we'll never know will we!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 786439, member: 2189"] Upstate, Since you are such a heavy movie goer, have you seen "W"? I have to admit at first I did not because I thought it would be a slam job and I wasn't interested in that. However, I actually found the movie insightful and I came away having some sympathy for the guy and it really revolved around his relationship with his dad whom he couldn't please and his love for baseball which I also love the game. Bob Costas did an interview several years ago during the Bush years on his radio show with former baseball commiss. Fay Vincent and G.W. Bush came up in the conversation. It was pure luck and chance that I heard it but it turns out that during W's Texas Rangers years, he had thrown his name in for the Commiss job and tired to lobby Vincent and the late Bowie Kuhn to support his effort. According to Vincent himself, both he and Kuhn rejected W, and quite honestly he never IMO gave a real good reason why either, and not long after that, W made his decision to seek the governorship of Texas and the rest is as they say, political history. I do believe in my heart of hearts that the politics was just to please his dad and try and gain some favor with him but for W his heart was in baseball. After that interview, I always had empathy for W because I really felt he loved baseball and wanted the commiss job to feed that love (and not in bad way) but the motivation of Vincent and Kuhn to oppose him just seemed suspect to me. The movie also IMO suggested this as well (or it did to me) although pleasing his Dad seemed very important too. I also have always believed that W and Jimmy Carter both shared one very important common point and that is they both were heavily surrounded by the wrong people. When I saw W at the ALCS game in Texas, the man looked genuinely happy, content and most at ease as I've ever seen him. I've always wondered in the back of my mind did Vincent and Kuhn deprive us of a good baseball commiss but we'll never know will we! [/QUOTE]
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