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<blockquote data-quote="vexheadroom" data-source="post: 4978106" data-attributes="member: 70924">You&#039;re probably right.&nbsp;&nbsp; Figuratively, anyways.&nbsp; &nbsp; Until quite recently, lots of the vaccinated folks I hang out with just blatantly believed they were pretty much immune and/or not contagious.&nbsp; Their entire family would be coughing and sneezing, but they&#039;re like &quot;It&#039;s just a cold - we&#039;ve been vaccinated&quot;.&nbsp; Even though there are were no &quot;colds&quot; circulating in the area.&nbsp;&nbsp; Whether their &quot;viral load&quot; is 1/3 of an unvaccinated carrier or not becomes non-relevant when it&#039;s still a couple magnitudes of order higher than with pre-Delta variants.&nbsp; If it takes some headline stating it&#039;s 251x higher than &quot;something&quot;, then maybe that gets their attention. The CDC did no one any favors when they stopped tracking breakthrough cases on May 1, and only tracked breakthrough hospitalization stats after that.&nbsp;&nbsp; Far be it for the CDC to collect data which might be &quot;confusing&quot; to folks if it fell into the wrong hands.But the question of who is &quot;spreading&quot; Delta is now pretty moot, it&#039;s unstoppable, as opposed to previous variants.&nbsp; Look at Australia, for example - they will be rivaling the U.S. case counts at some point, all because of a single infected limo driver who fell between the cracks in their quarantine system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vexheadroom, post: 4978106, member: 70924"] You're probably right. Figuratively, anyways. Until quite recently, lots of the vaccinated folks I hang out with just blatantly believed they were pretty much immune and/or not contagious. Their entire family would be coughing and sneezing, but they're like "It's just a cold - we've been vaccinated". Even though there are were no "colds" circulating in the area. Whether their "viral load" is 1/3 of an unvaccinated carrier or not becomes non-relevant when it's still a couple magnitudes of order higher than with pre-Delta variants. If it takes some headline stating it's 251x higher than "something", then maybe that gets their attention. The CDC did no one any favors when they stopped tracking breakthrough cases on May 1, and only tracked breakthrough hospitalization stats after that. Far be it for the CDC to collect data which might be "confusing" to folks if it fell into the wrong hands. But the question of who is "spreading" Delta is now pretty moot, it's unstoppable, as opposed to previous variants. Look at Australia, for example - they will be rivaling the U.S. case counts at some point, all because of a single infected limo driver who fell between the cracks in their quarantine system. [/QUOTE]

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