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Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by RuthlessSupSlayer, Jul 10, 2018.

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Vote for the recently released Contract

  1. Yes

    7 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. No

    91 vote(s)
    92.9%
  1. RuthlessSupSlayer

    RuthlessSupSlayer Active Member

    What would you vote for the contract?

    If yes what is the reason for the Yes?

    If no what is the reason and what solution would you counter with?
     
  2. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Absolutely no as long as existing part timers don’t get an extra bump or catch up similar to what new hires are getting, also the weekend for discount pay instead of premium pay is non starter. Raises not keeping up with inflation has to stop on this contract. This is worst possible contract I could have imagined in this economic and jobs climate. Shame on Taylor, Hoffa, and the IBT.
     
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  3. John Boy

    John Boy Member

    No. Hybrid pay rate, No catch up raises for PT, 9.5 requirements, Shotty raise, Telematics infractions (seatbelt, back first BS,etc), the list goes on. Has anyone heard about more vacation, option days, or what we got in return for Black Friday?
     
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  4. specter208

    specter208 Active Member

    :censored3: NO!!
     
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  5. silverbullet2893

    silverbullet2893 Great job!


    You got a nice firm donkey punch for it.
     
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  6. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    That's enough out of you! Back to nothingness fluff you squirrely little mouse fart!
     
  7. von kaiser

    von kaiser Knock, drop, and roll

    “as long as work is available“

    No.
     
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  8. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    This seems to be the big one for everyone but even if they take that out I still hate the language.
     
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  9. silverbullet2893

    silverbullet2893 Great job!


    Don’t make me start treating you like Fitbit!!
     
  10. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

    We are on the same page. This is the worst part of the contract by far. They need to start by removing this line. Then we'll talk. But until then. No fckn way am I voting for this trash.
     
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  11. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    1) Top rate for anyone that delivers ground.
    2) 9.5 protection for all.
    3) Automatic restitution on 9.5 penalty.
     
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  12. Sweeper

    Sweeper I need a bigger broom

     
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  13. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Your last sentence would pertain to your supplement.
     
  14. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Strike strike strike
     
  15. Crash-n-Burn

    Crash-n-Burn Finished work

    One big change in language has to be: All OT offered on seniority basis. Every member should have no limits on income If you want it. So no if language doesn't change
     
  16. Staydryitsraining

    Staydryitsraining Active Member

    If they brake down on pay for ground now later it will be top rate only during these hours of the day.
     
  17. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Seriously. What the :censored2: is that even doing in there? How the :censored2: can you respect the crew that’s supposed to be representing your interests if language like that is in any way acceptable to them? That’s worse than the 22.4 creation itself.

    But I doubt they take that line out, as doing so might undermine the exact intention the Company has for 22.4s, which is to take work from higher wage RPCDs.
     
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  18. imwell

    imwell I'm as productive as the methods allow.

    Nationally, the average pay increase that companies are giving their employees is just about 3%.

    Some of my sources can be found here: The Outlook for Pay Raises in 2017
    and here: The Average Salary Raise Percentage

    Our 1st year raise (70 cents) will only be a 1.93% pay increase. Absolutely unacceptable !!!
    The following 4 years of pay increases will be: 2.03%, 2.12%, 2.33%, and 2.53%. Again, completely unacceptable!

    UPS is a well off, growing, and very profitable company. Combine that with a very robust economy, and significant federal tax cuts, there is absolutely NO GOOD REASON that we should expect, and accept, nothing less than a $1.09 (3%) pay raise the 1st year along with 3% increases to that the remaining 4 years.

    There are several other items that can, and will, cause me to vote NO on this proposed contract. But keeping it Real and Up-Front, I work to live. So, one of the 1st things I look at in a new contract proposal are the pay increases (my "living" wage) This one, in my opinion, completely misses even the minimal benchmark.

    I will vote NO.
     
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  19. MyTripisCut

    MyTripisCut Director of Shenanigans

    At first, I was iffy on the whole 22.4 thing. Tried to stay objective. But my final thought about it is this. What prevents this conglomeration from creating a 22.5 next contract? And 22.6 after that? Could start a snowball effect of lower wages passed down from contract to contract. @PT Car Washer has tried to explain this to us time and again. The two tier system has been in place for some already, this will just mainstream it. If the company needs more drivers, then they should hire more. If they need to staff the inside better, then maybe pay better. I’m voting no, and will be educating anyone who will listen in my hub to do the same.
     
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  20. Heavy Package

    Heavy Package Active Member

    Oh wait, we need to see and read the tentative agreement before we make up our minds. I think with UPS we know what to expect. Now go iron your shirts and shorts and realign your 1--year safe driving pin so you are ready for work tomorrow.

    The contract is a big smelly turd. If that turd has work available. LMAO.
     
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