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<blockquote data-quote="Ancient Alien" data-source="post: 3717611" data-attributes="member: 70963">I want all hourlies rewarded, they deserve it. However, within reason. I believe what this really is;** Trump Mania ** what I mean by that is the &#039;No Movement&#039; started out with fire &amp; energy. Made valid points, showed solidarity and a interest towards the longevity of The Teamsters. As the weeks, months rolled by. It was overwhelmingly obvious it didn&#039;t matter what was said, taught, negotiated for the betterment. The *base* is voting No..... no matter what. Then the master &amp; handshake agreement was established and all of a sudden the union is the enemy. &quot;Lock Denis Up&quot;, this all before Supplements &amp; Riders negotiated.Now we&#039;re at a point where there is no doubt, no questioning in its totality.... this is the best Teamster contract in my (almost) 27-years at UPS. Time after time locals, BA&#039;s, leadership is proving step by step this is a terrific contract. The No movement knows they have very,very little to complain about. However, just like an avid Trump man in 2015/2016... this No movement refuses to take Yes for an answer. They are sticking to their guns at all cost even though the Whitehouse or Brownhouse is set to burn down with them in it.$37.60 an hour + $22.14 an hour (in health &amp; welfare &amp; pension) = $59.74 an hour---**that&#039;s $59.74 AN HOUR**No Cost Healthcare, 9 Weeks of Inflated Paid Vacation after 30-years. Pensions that will pay NET over $485,000 every 10-years with a potential to pay out over $1,455,000 NET if I live until 80! Rare to find a 401k person clearing $1,455,000 of pure cash! Plus, UPS/IBT has a 401(k) &amp; NOT COUNTING my SS I&#039;ll draw at 62 that I earned the lion share from working at UPS.I find your arguments weak, unfounded, stubborn and a willingness to never agree you were ever, ever wrong.I personally believe the No Movement is Anti-Union &amp; Pro Establishment! Just feeding out of Wall Street&#039;s hands.I&#039;m ashamed of ya&#039;ll. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/frown.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :(" data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancient Alien, post: 3717611, member: 70963"] I want all hourlies rewarded, they deserve it. However, within reason. I believe what this really is; ** Trump Mania ** what I mean by that is the 'No Movement' started out with fire & energy. Made valid points, showed solidarity and a interest towards the longevity of The Teamsters. As the weeks, months rolled by. It was overwhelmingly obvious it didn't matter what was said, taught, negotiated for the betterment. The *base* is voting No..... no matter what. Then the master & handshake agreement was established and all of a sudden the union is the enemy. "Lock Denis Up", this all before Supplements & Riders negotiated. Now we're at a point where there is no doubt, no questioning in its totality.... this is the best Teamster contract in my (almost) 27-years at UPS. Time after time locals, BA's, leadership is proving step by step this is a terrific contract. The No movement knows they have very,very little to complain about. However, just like an avid Trump man in 2015/2016... this No movement refuses to take Yes for an answer. They are sticking to their guns at all cost even though the Whitehouse or Brownhouse is set to burn down with them in it. $37.60 an hour + $22.14 an hour (in health & welfare & pension) = $59.74 an hour---**that's $59.74 AN HOUR** No Cost Healthcare, 9 Weeks of Inflated Paid Vacation after 30-years. Pensions that will pay NET over $485,000 every 10-years with a potential to pay out over $1,455,000 NET if I live until 80! Rare to find a 401k person clearing $1,455,000 of pure cash! Plus, UPS/IBT has a 401(k) & NOT COUNTING my SS I'll draw at 62 that I earned the lion share from working at UPS. I find your arguments weak, unfounded, stubborn and a willingness to never agree you were ever, ever wrong. I personally believe the No Movement is Anti-Union & Pro Establishment! Just feeding out of Wall Street's hands. I'm ashamed of ya'll. :( [/QUOTE]

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