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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3745323" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>New ground drivers. Sorry, this has all been gone over before, but you seem to be the first vote yes person actually interested in another view. Denis T asserted that 22.4 was created in response to the complaints from drivers about working weekends. No one seems to have or be willing to share information about how many people actually complained, and what they were actually complaining about.</p><p></p><p>The people on this forum who complained about weekends were complaining about how poorly operations were managed, the fact that they bid a m-friend schedule but were forced onto t-s after the last contract was ratified, and that Monday routes were being slashed as a result of Saturday operations. No one said they wanted to work weekends for $6 an hour less, but that was the solution the union came up with.</p><p></p><p>The counterargument to that is that no one is forcing anyone to bid on 22.4, which is valid. But I guarantee some people will feel they don't have a choice but to bid 22.4 if they eventually want to go ground driver. 22.4s can be hired from outside the union, even if ground drivers wouldn't be. What is unclear is whether a 22.4 off the street hire would have first crack at ground driving over part timers with more building seniority. Some supplementals might be clear that would not happen, others not so clear. If you were a part timer looking to go full time driver, would you rather do it on the weekends as a full ground driver, or as a 22.4? I think the answer to that is clear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3745323, member: 63706"] New ground drivers. Sorry, this has all been gone over before, but you seem to be the first vote yes person actually interested in another view. Denis T asserted that 22.4 was created in response to the complaints from drivers about working weekends. No one seems to have or be willing to share information about how many people actually complained, and what they were actually complaining about. The people on this forum who complained about weekends were complaining about how poorly operations were managed, the fact that they bid a m-friend schedule but were forced onto t-s after the last contract was ratified, and that Monday routes were being slashed as a result of Saturday operations. No one said they wanted to work weekends for $6 an hour less, but that was the solution the union came up with. The counterargument to that is that no one is forcing anyone to bid on 22.4, which is valid. But I guarantee some people will feel they don't have a choice but to bid 22.4 if they eventually want to go ground driver. 22.4s can be hired from outside the union, even if ground drivers wouldn't be. What is unclear is whether a 22.4 off the street hire would have first crack at ground driving over part timers with more building seniority. Some supplementals might be clear that would not happen, others not so clear. If you were a part timer looking to go full time driver, would you rather do it on the weekends as a full ground driver, or as a 22.4? I think the answer to that is clear. [/QUOTE]
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