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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 372051" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Just Tired, </p><p> </p><p>Your post was well said.</p><p> </p><p>Taking control over the goverment and the country is exactly what is needed. We are a nation of people, not a nation of a political party.</p><p> </p><p>Obama may not be the best candidate in the country, but he is the better choice for america.</p><p> </p><p>Every country he visits, he is greeted by thousands of supporters. NOT HECKLERS and HATERS like when BUSH visits another country.</p><p> </p><p>There isnt a country on the face of the earth that Pres Bush can visit without having to face thousands of protesters and haters.</p><p> </p><p>As for Tieguys view of Iraq being a beacon for democracy in the middle east and thereby in the future shedding some positive light on BUSH, well, to that I say, dont hold your breath.</p><p> </p><p>Nation building will not change the way the middle does business.</p><p> </p><p>As I have said many times, the BUSH administration always wants to treat the symptoms and not the problem.</p><p> </p><p>IE: If i have a stomach problem and go to the doctor and get examined only to find out that i have stomach cancer, and the doctor decides that the way to treat the pain (symptom) was to give me some pepto bismol to make me feel better, will that cure the cancer ?(problem) What if the doctor just gave me more and more pepto bismol? Will that cure the cancer?</p><p> </p><p>Of course not. It will only make me feel better for a little while. The fact that more Pepto Bismol is given will NOT be a beacon for the future. Its merely a distraction until the eventual outcome happens which isnt good because the problem was never addressed.</p><p> </p><p>Same in the middle east. </p><p> </p><p>The problems of terrorism and the root causes of terrorism are not being addressed. Saudi Arabias funding of terrorists in many countries and the arming of the SUNNI Arabs in Iraq which are responsible for the majority of deaths of US personnel in Iraq is NOT EVEN ON THE TABLE with the BUSH administration.</p><p> </p><p>Saudi Arabia provides more ARMS and MONEY into Iraq than IRAN does, yet, BUSH and his followers want to focus on IRAN.</p><p>(sypmtom/problem)</p><p> </p><p>In the begining, the concept was IRAQ was going to be invaded and the other muslim countries would fall in line after watching the US power (shock and Awe). </p><p> </p><p>This didnt happen. There are more terrorists today that hate the US today than prior to invading Iraq.</p><p> </p><p>This is the BUSH legacy.</p><p> </p><p>You all can wave your flags and wear your pins and pray every sunday, but it wont change this fact.</p><p> </p><p>Our future as a Nation has only been threatened further by the Actions of the the Bush administration.</p><p> </p><p>What time frame will an attack happen? Who knows. It took 10 years to plan and carry out 911. Bush has been in office for 7 1/2. Are we safe?</p><p> </p><p>With the failures of the Bush domestic policies, the US dollar is worthless against foriegn currency (euro) and this has only made the middle east countries richer and cash rich ( in the quadrillions)</p><p> </p><p>Where do you think this cash is going? The stock market? The Bush administration has only made our enemies richer and this country poorer.</p><p> </p><p>A shifting of wealth.</p><p> </p><p>Problem is that the wealth that the terrorists have, makes the war on terror harder because they can NOW buy the weapons they couldnt buy 5 years ago.</p><p> </p><p>This is the Bush legacy.</p><p> </p><p>All the battle hymms in the world wont change this fact. All the flag pins in the world wont protect our troops from these weapons.</p><p> </p><p>In Iraq, the rebels (anti US presence Iraqis) are better armed today than prior to the us invasion.</p><p> </p><p>Supporting our troops has nothing to do with supporting the policy. Shall I support a policy that ends up in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians?</p><p> </p><p>Just the other day, US troops stormed a house they believed to be housing terrorists, after the shooting ended, the questions began, in the end, the marines killed the son of the Iraqi govenor in a case of mistaken identity.</p><p> </p><p>Shall I support this policy??</p><p> </p><p>How many innocent people have to die, in order to create this light that will shed on the BUSH legacy??</p><p> </p><p>We can all slap each other in the face on this board and remain divided, or we can start finding some common ground by extracting rhetoric and political propaganda and find a way to protect america together as americans.</p><p> </p><p>It is looking very good for OBAMA in Nov, his numbers look good in every state.</p><p> </p><p>McCain only offers more of the same....and he isnt looking very good at all.</p><p> </p><p>A major slap in the face for the BUSH/McCAIN administration when the Iraqi pm confirms he wants the US out of Iraq by 2010.</p><p> </p><p>You guys have to hear this....we do not know whats best for Iraq, the Iraqis know whats best for them.</p><p> </p><p>Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 372051, member: 12148"] Just Tired, Your post was well said. Taking control over the goverment and the country is exactly what is needed. We are a nation of people, not a nation of a political party. Obama may not be the best candidate in the country, but he is the better choice for america. Every country he visits, he is greeted by thousands of supporters. NOT HECKLERS and HATERS like when BUSH visits another country. There isnt a country on the face of the earth that Pres Bush can visit without having to face thousands of protesters and haters. As for Tieguys view of Iraq being a beacon for democracy in the middle east and thereby in the future shedding some positive light on BUSH, well, to that I say, dont hold your breath. Nation building will not change the way the middle does business. As I have said many times, the BUSH administration always wants to treat the symptoms and not the problem. IE: If i have a stomach problem and go to the doctor and get examined only to find out that i have stomach cancer, and the doctor decides that the way to treat the pain (symptom) was to give me some pepto bismol to make me feel better, will that cure the cancer ?(problem) What if the doctor just gave me more and more pepto bismol? Will that cure the cancer? Of course not. It will only make me feel better for a little while. The fact that more Pepto Bismol is given will NOT be a beacon for the future. Its merely a distraction until the eventual outcome happens which isnt good because the problem was never addressed. Same in the middle east. The problems of terrorism and the root causes of terrorism are not being addressed. Saudi Arabias funding of terrorists in many countries and the arming of the SUNNI Arabs in Iraq which are responsible for the majority of deaths of US personnel in Iraq is NOT EVEN ON THE TABLE with the BUSH administration. Saudi Arabia provides more ARMS and MONEY into Iraq than IRAN does, yet, BUSH and his followers want to focus on IRAN. (sypmtom/problem) In the begining, the concept was IRAQ was going to be invaded and the other muslim countries would fall in line after watching the US power (shock and Awe). This didnt happen. There are more terrorists today that hate the US today than prior to invading Iraq. This is the BUSH legacy. You all can wave your flags and wear your pins and pray every sunday, but it wont change this fact. Our future as a Nation has only been threatened further by the Actions of the the Bush administration. What time frame will an attack happen? Who knows. It took 10 years to plan and carry out 911. Bush has been in office for 7 1/2. Are we safe? With the failures of the Bush domestic policies, the US dollar is worthless against foriegn currency (euro) and this has only made the middle east countries richer and cash rich ( in the quadrillions) Where do you think this cash is going? The stock market? The Bush administration has only made our enemies richer and this country poorer. A shifting of wealth. Problem is that the wealth that the terrorists have, makes the war on terror harder because they can NOW buy the weapons they couldnt buy 5 years ago. This is the Bush legacy. All the battle hymms in the world wont change this fact. All the flag pins in the world wont protect our troops from these weapons. In Iraq, the rebels (anti US presence Iraqis) are better armed today than prior to the us invasion. Supporting our troops has nothing to do with supporting the policy. Shall I support a policy that ends up in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians? Just the other day, US troops stormed a house they believed to be housing terrorists, after the shooting ended, the questions began, in the end, the marines killed the son of the Iraqi govenor in a case of mistaken identity. Shall I support this policy?? How many innocent people have to die, in order to create this light that will shed on the BUSH legacy?? We can all slap each other in the face on this board and remain divided, or we can start finding some common ground by extracting rhetoric and political propaganda and find a way to protect america together as americans. It is looking very good for OBAMA in Nov, his numbers look good in every state. McCain only offers more of the same....and he isnt looking very good at all. A major slap in the face for the BUSH/McCAIN administration when the Iraqi pm confirms he wants the US out of Iraq by 2010. You guys have to hear this....we do not know whats best for Iraq, the Iraqis know whats best for them. Peace:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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