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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 562017" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>It is interesting to note that some posters automatically go gunning for a fight. It is us vs them ..."defend yourself!". WOW! </p><p></p><p>My God! Are you folks that worried you are going to lose your job every step of your day?</p><p></p><p>As for the .86 SPORH decrease.... if a supervisor gets on the car and the SPORH is at or better than "Best Demonstrated" every time and only when the driver is by his/herself is it lower, than the company is making a case for dismissal. It will happen. It is a matter of time.</p><p></p><p><em>Most employees are really trying to do their best every day, but if you are that one or two employees who spit in the company's face every chance you get .... your days are numbered.</em></p><p></p><p>If you don't believe this... you are probably one of those "one or two"! LOL!</p><p></p><p>Not one of these issues are new to UPS. Employees have lost their jobs because of performance issues. The will eventually fall because of "failure to follow proper procedures or methods". Granted, it may take more than one "fight" but eventually they will be separated from UPS. </p><p></p><p>Again the bathroom issue is not new to UPS. You may win the battle but you will eventually lose the war. Part of "break" is going to the bathroom. Unless you can prove you have a medical condition you are probably barking up the wrong tree. I can tell you that no reasonable arbitrator will side with you on that one without an extremely good reason why you can't "go" on your break or personal time. </p><p></p><p>Be very careful of driving off trace to go to the bathroom. You are giving the company ammunition because additional miles adds to your planned day. If the company can prove there was a perfectly legitimate rest facility closer to where you broke trace you could lose your job for stealing time. </p><p></p><p>I have NEVER seen the company go after a "good employee". I am sure if I was able to investigate the case that <strong>Soberups</strong> is referring to I would be able to get to the truth. </p><p></p><p>The one of the keys to the success of this company is the collective bargaining system that has been maintained with a <strong>delicate balance</strong> over the years. The grievance machinery is in place and is a well oiled machine. </p><p></p><p>You can't grieve a warning letter but you can grieve the next step. I have a tremendous amount of confidence in the system. Instead of getting your panties in a bunch over every little issue, keep a good line of communication open and look for understanding. </p><p></p><p>OK - I will get off the soap box ...for now!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 562017, member: 9789"] It is interesting to note that some posters automatically go gunning for a fight. It is us vs them ..."defend yourself!". WOW! My God! Are you folks that worried you are going to lose your job every step of your day? As for the .86 SPORH decrease.... if a supervisor gets on the car and the SPORH is at or better than "Best Demonstrated" every time and only when the driver is by his/herself is it lower, than the company is making a case for dismissal. It will happen. It is a matter of time. [I]Most employees are really trying to do their best every day, but if you are that one or two employees who spit in the company's face every chance you get .... your days are numbered.[/I] If you don't believe this... you are probably one of those "one or two"! LOL! Not one of these issues are new to UPS. Employees have lost their jobs because of performance issues. The will eventually fall because of "failure to follow proper procedures or methods". Granted, it may take more than one "fight" but eventually they will be separated from UPS. Again the bathroom issue is not new to UPS. You may win the battle but you will eventually lose the war. Part of "break" is going to the bathroom. Unless you can prove you have a medical condition you are probably barking up the wrong tree. I can tell you that no reasonable arbitrator will side with you on that one without an extremely good reason why you can't "go" on your break or personal time. Be very careful of driving off trace to go to the bathroom. You are giving the company ammunition because additional miles adds to your planned day. If the company can prove there was a perfectly legitimate rest facility closer to where you broke trace you could lose your job for stealing time. I have NEVER seen the company go after a "good employee". I am sure if I was able to investigate the case that [B]Soberups[/B] is referring to I would be able to get to the truth. The one of the keys to the success of this company is the collective bargaining system that has been maintained with a [B]delicate balance[/B] over the years. The grievance machinery is in place and is a well oiled machine. You can't grieve a warning letter but you can grieve the next step. I have a tremendous amount of confidence in the system. Instead of getting your panties in a bunch over every little issue, keep a good line of communication open and look for understanding. OK - I will get off the soap box ...for now! [/QUOTE]
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