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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 563469" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Lifer</p><p> </p><p>Thank you for the comments. I too enjoy a conversation with someone that is not always negative.</p><p> </p><p>I find negativity breeds all sorts of problems, both for the hourly and management alike. </p><p> </p><p>As for butting heads with someone, that is alright as long as it is productive in the long run.</p><p> </p><p>Tie and I had one of those back in I believe 01. Best I can remember, it was a knockdown smack down (something that probably would be deleted now, and for sure get both of us banned), but as a result of further communications, we have developed a great respect for each other. Actually, after talking with him on the phone, If I ever get up that way again, the first beer is on me, and I will be the designated driver.</p><p> </p><p>Something you pointed out as a shop steward for several years, and as an employee for over 33, I find that true in both camps. And while it fell to me to help the employee keep his job, there were some that were on self-destruct the whole time.</p><p> </p><p>One in particular comes to mind. Walking off the job, mowing lawns for customers while on company time, falsifying his mileage, intensionally missing whole business areas during business hours, while delivering residential stops during business hours, and the list goes on and on. Longest suspension was a bit over 6 months. And that only covers his time as a driver. Right after I left, they terminated him for stealing time. This one stuck. But as a practical matter, he should have been gone 6 years before. It was only by the good graces of the management team that it went on that long.</p><p> </p><p>And as the thread went on the steward that tried to make a point of "he couldn't be fired over production issues", we all know that as long as you truly try to do the job the best you can, there are those that will push the issue, and get burned.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 563469, member: 484"] Lifer Thank you for the comments. I too enjoy a conversation with someone that is not always negative. I find negativity breeds all sorts of problems, both for the hourly and management alike. As for butting heads with someone, that is alright as long as it is productive in the long run. Tie and I had one of those back in I believe 01. Best I can remember, it was a knockdown smack down (something that probably would be deleted now, and for sure get both of us banned), but as a result of further communications, we have developed a great respect for each other. Actually, after talking with him on the phone, If I ever get up that way again, the first beer is on me, and I will be the designated driver. Something you pointed out as a shop steward for several years, and as an employee for over 33, I find that true in both camps. And while it fell to me to help the employee keep his job, there were some that were on self-destruct the whole time. One in particular comes to mind. Walking off the job, mowing lawns for customers while on company time, falsifying his mileage, intensionally missing whole business areas during business hours, while delivering residential stops during business hours, and the list goes on and on. Longest suspension was a bit over 6 months. And that only covers his time as a driver. Right after I left, they terminated him for stealing time. This one stuck. But as a practical matter, he should have been gone 6 years before. It was only by the good graces of the management team that it went on that long. And as the thread went on the steward that tried to make a point of "he couldn't be fired over production issues", we all know that as long as you truly try to do the job the best you can, there are those that will push the issue, and get burned. d [/QUOTE]
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