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<blockquote data-quote="Ancient Alien" data-source="post: 3634156" data-attributes="member: 70963">I travel a lot. We&#039;re not suppose to tell each other all our personal information. I would open up and just tell you all here, but I&#039;d hate to be put in Mod Que. So, I just try to keep a low profile and as honest as possible.I&#039;m a UPS Driver or if YOU like, a Service Provider. I&#039;ll be retired in 5-years so yeah it&#039;s beneficial to me to look at this contract in a more understanding way. These 22.4 jobs is what our center, yes Washington state right now, these jobs used to be called &#039;clean up routes&#039;, it was new hires making a crap wage but they still made a decent wage... I believe $11 an hour back then. They weren&#039;t labeled as 22.3 or 22.4. They were just cleanup runs... usually 3.99 to 9 hours. All the drivers kicked out their bulk or resis and the new guys delivered those stops. It was Hell for sure because at that time I was the cleanup bitch. However, I knew guys would retire and I&#039;d move up the seniority list. It was a way better UPS on the body and mind in the 90&#039;s. I actually like this 22.4 way better because back then Drivers would dig out their very worst crap. Whether that was 28-$ Only C.O.D&#039;s at one stop or cherry pick resis that had German Shepherds &amp; Rottweiler&#039;s. So, I like UPS setting up 22.4&#039;s more fairly. Plus, in only a few years they&#039;ll make $34.79 an hour and what $53 an hour OT? If UPS can take the work culture back to the 90&#039;s this way. I am all for it. I&#039;m all for that wage.There&#039;s protections in the language that Regular Package Car Drivers won&#039;t be reduced to poverty while the 22.4&#039;s make bank. So you gotta look at the BIG PICTURE (ever heard of that one) and too much assumption that UPS won&#039;t honor it and will kill 22.4&#039;s with 70-hour work weeks is all speculation.We all wanted less hours. This contract isn&#039;t JUST for a building of 35 drivers. It&#039;s a National MASTER and it is really worded to get those hours down, keep us at Mon-Friday with 9.5 protections. Weekends off... thus the new guys work Saturday. Only fair they start at the bottom and in 5-Years, they can have my route. Actually 4-Years but going to stay a year to buy a GMC 2500HD.If you just stepped back once and just looked at the good from it. You&#039;d see it&#039;s a real nice contract. Not perfect. Yet a step forward. I don&#039;t listen to the sky is falling guys on here and the claims UPS is destroying union jobs into the future. Just the opposite. They&#039;re adding jobs. Union jobs and that&#039;s a step in the right direction. It would be great if it was 100,000 new union jobs but we all gotta be sensible about this.What upsets me is you guys claim to be all pro-union but you HATE Hoffa Jr., You HATE Taylor, you HATE our negotiators... you&#039;re against the IBT.You hate ME supporting the union. I swear to the Lord all Mighty y&#039;all are really from corporate and not Teamster&#039;s at all.Show some love for your union, their leadership. I find it offensive you label MY Union as pansies and pushovers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancient Alien, post: 3634156, member: 70963"] I travel a lot. We're not suppose to tell each other all our personal information. I would open up and just tell you all here, but I'd hate to be put in Mod Que. So, I just try to keep a low profile and as honest as possible. I'm a UPS Driver or if YOU like, a Service Provider. I'll be retired in 5-years so yeah it's beneficial to me to look at this contract in a more understanding way. These 22.4 jobs is what our center, yes Washington state right now, these jobs used to be called 'clean up routes', it was new hires making a crap wage but they still made a decent wage... I believe $11 an hour back then. They weren't labeled as 22.3 or 22.4. They were just cleanup runs... usually 3.99 to 9 hours. All the drivers kicked out their bulk or resis and the new guys delivered those stops. It was Hell for sure because at that time I was the cleanup bitch. However, I knew guys would retire and I'd move up the seniority list. It was a way better UPS on the body and mind in the 90's. I actually like this 22.4 way better because back then Drivers would dig out their very worst crap. Whether that was 28-$ Only C.O.D's at one stop or cherry pick resis that had German Shepherds & Rottweiler's. So, I like UPS setting up 22.4's more fairly. Plus, in only a few years they'll make $34.79 an hour and what $53 an hour OT? If UPS can take the work culture back to the 90's this way. I am all for it. I'm all for that wage. There's protections in the language that Regular Package Car Drivers won't be reduced to poverty while the 22.4's make bank. So you gotta look at the BIG PICTURE (ever heard of that one) and too much assumption that UPS won't honor it and will kill 22.4's with 70-hour work weeks is all speculation. We all wanted less hours. This contract isn't JUST for a building of 35 drivers. It's a National MASTER and it is really worded to get those hours down, keep us at Mon-Friday with 9.5 protections. Weekends off... thus the new guys work Saturday. Only fair they start at the bottom and in 5-Years, they can have my route. Actually 4-Years but going to stay a year to buy a GMC 2500HD. If you just stepped back once and just looked at the good from it. You'd see it's a real nice contract. Not perfect. Yet a step forward. I don't listen to the sky is falling guys on here and the claims UPS is destroying union jobs into the future. Just the opposite. They're adding jobs. Union jobs and that's a step in the right direction. It would be great if it was 100,000 new union jobs but we all gotta be sensible about this. What upsets me is you guys claim to be all pro-union but you HATE Hoffa Jr., You HATE Taylor, you HATE our negotiators... you're against the IBT.You hate ME supporting the union. I swear to the Lord all Mighty y'all are really from corporate and not Teamster's at all. Show some love for your union, their leadership. I find it offensive you label MY Union as pansies and pushovers. [/QUOTE]

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