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<blockquote data-quote="upswife75" data-source="post: 1244713" data-attributes="member: 43413"><p>DriveInDriveOut is very much correct. I helped someone while working for HUD that was dropped from getting SSI because she had money in a savings account. She had gotten a bit of money from a grandmother that passed. It wasn't a massive amount, just a bit over a grand, I believe, but her benefits dropped until that money was gone. She was saving that money to try to get out of hud housing. I live in Florida and it happens. They will also count a second vehicle against you, so if you are a couple who gets another car so that you can both work to try to dig out of the hole, you get penalized there, also, and it doesn't matter if you paid for that car yourself or if some kind family member gave it to you. It's now an asset with value that you could sell for money so they don't have to give you as much money. Oh, you're saving up some money to put your kid through community college to help him get out of the same situation you are in? Oh well, we can't help you anymore because you have a bit of "disposable" income. I've seen it happen with my own eyes, so please don't claim it doesn't work that way. The way it is set up makes it very hard for people to attempt to get out of the system because it is one extreme or the other, so they become discouraged and just say screw it and stay where they are. Yes, some people are fortunate enough to persevere, but that isn't the norm. Many of them want to work so they can help themselves, but if that work makes them the bare minimum to survive and not enough to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", what incentive is there for them to bust their butts to get the same pay that they would get for doing nothing? There needs to be a happy medium in there somewhere, that allows them to continue getting some type of assistance while they work to better themselves so they can move up in the world, not just to survive. Surviving isn't the same as living. In England, if you aren't working and getting assistance from the government, you can go to some type of vocational school where they will help teach you a skill and then help you find a job using that skill. We don't do that here.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are those that play the system and I won't get into whose fault that is on a political level. The system is broken and needs to be fixed, but it does help SOME people and they aren't all mooching off the taxpayers. They are just the only ones you notice and that get any attention. For every welfare moocher that you may see buying steaks with food stamps, swiping their card with their done up nails, etc there are 10 more that you pay no mind to that are buying ramen and chicken legs at some dirty discount grocery store. Until they find a way to fix the system without hurting those that aren't abusing it, this will always be the case. Just like the corporations that do the same exact thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="upswife75, post: 1244713, member: 43413"] DriveInDriveOut is very much correct. I helped someone while working for HUD that was dropped from getting SSI because she had money in a savings account. She had gotten a bit of money from a grandmother that passed. It wasn't a massive amount, just a bit over a grand, I believe, but her benefits dropped until that money was gone. She was saving that money to try to get out of hud housing. I live in Florida and it happens. They will also count a second vehicle against you, so if you are a couple who gets another car so that you can both work to try to dig out of the hole, you get penalized there, also, and it doesn't matter if you paid for that car yourself or if some kind family member gave it to you. It's now an asset with value that you could sell for money so they don't have to give you as much money. Oh, you're saving up some money to put your kid through community college to help him get out of the same situation you are in? Oh well, we can't help you anymore because you have a bit of "disposable" income. I've seen it happen with my own eyes, so please don't claim it doesn't work that way. The way it is set up makes it very hard for people to attempt to get out of the system because it is one extreme or the other, so they become discouraged and just say screw it and stay where they are. Yes, some people are fortunate enough to persevere, but that isn't the norm. Many of them want to work so they can help themselves, but if that work makes them the bare minimum to survive and not enough to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", what incentive is there for them to bust their butts to get the same pay that they would get for doing nothing? There needs to be a happy medium in there somewhere, that allows them to continue getting some type of assistance while they work to better themselves so they can move up in the world, not just to survive. Surviving isn't the same as living. In England, if you aren't working and getting assistance from the government, you can go to some type of vocational school where they will help teach you a skill and then help you find a job using that skill. We don't do that here. Yes, there are those that play the system and I won't get into whose fault that is on a political level. The system is broken and needs to be fixed, but it does help SOME people and they aren't all mooching off the taxpayers. They are just the only ones you notice and that get any attention. For every welfare moocher that you may see buying steaks with food stamps, swiping their card with their done up nails, etc there are 10 more that you pay no mind to that are buying ramen and chicken legs at some dirty discount grocery store. Until they find a way to fix the system without hurting those that aren't abusing it, this will always be the case. Just like the corporations that do the same exact thing. [/QUOTE]
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