Wesley

moreluck

golden ticket member
I wonder if he'll even serve one week of this sentence. He was smug about taxes and thought he would get away with something. If we did something like this, it'd be 20 years for us......and we would have been found guilty of the felony charges that he was found innocent of.

Wesley Snipes jailed for 3 years By Barbara Liston1 hour, 48 minutes ago


A "very sorry" Wesley Snipes, star of the "Blade" movies, was sentenced to three years in prison on Thursday for willfully failing to file U.S. income tax returns for 1999 through 2001.
Snipes was convicted in February on three misdemeanor counts. U.S. District Judge William Terrell Hodges handed down the maximum sentence and said he felt it was important to create a general deterrent against tax defiance.
"I am very sorry for my mistakes and errors," Snipes told the judge. "This will never happen again."
He read a prepared statement, describing himself as an "idealist, naive, passionate, truth-seeking, spiritual-seeking artist" who epitomized the expression "mo' money, mo' problems."
His lawyers tried to give the court three envelopes with checks totaling $5 million, but the judge and prosecutor said they could not accept the payments. An Internal Revenue Service agent collected the money during a recess.
The judge said prison officials would notify Snipes when to begin serving his sentence. Snipes said he would appeal the verdict but prosecutors vowed to oppose any request to allow him to remain free on bond while the appeal is pending.
Prosecutors said Snipes had earned more than $38 million since 1999 but still had not filed tax returns for the years 1999 through 2007 or paid any taxes prior to Thursday.
They accused Snipes of presenting himself as a victim and called the checks a "grandstanding move" that would turn out to be only a fraction of what he owes the IRS.
They said the notoriety of the case presented a "singular opportunity" to deter tax crimes nationwide.
Snipes was acquitted on two felony charges of filing false claims and fraud in seeking millions of dollars of refunds in other tax years.
The judge did not fine him but the IRS still could levy penalties and interest charges in addition to the taxes owed.
Snipes brought character references from actors Denzel Washington and Woody Harrelson. His lawyer, Linda M, said Snipes had led "an otherwise exemplary life" and had hired reputable tax professionals to help him resolve his tax liability and make amends.
She said Snipes owed less than $400,000 in taxes for the three years related to the convictions and should not be jailed.
M cited the cases of former Washington mayor Marion Barry and singer/actor Marc Anthony, who avoided prison after failing to file tax returns, and singer Willie Nelson, who remained free despite owing $17 million in back taxes.
Co-defendant Eddie Ray Kahn, a longtime tax protester who coached clients of his American Rights Litigators on how to beat the tax system, was sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Co-Defendant Douglas Rosile, who prosecutors called a "defrocked certified public accountant," was sentenced to 4-1/2 years for his part in the scheme. Both were convicted of conspiracy and tax fraud.
Prosecutors said Kahn and Rosile were "incorrigible tax offenders" whose anti-tax schemes caused "enormous damage to the administration of our tax system." They said at least nine other Kahn customers had been convicted of criminal tax violations and two had been indicted.
(Editing by Jane Sutton and John O'Callaghan)
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
I don't know, he didn't sound that smug to me, at least in the article you posted.

It's too bad, I always liked Wesley Snipes. I thought he was really good in the Blade movies, and I also liked him a lot in Rising Sun with Sean Connery.

Always pay your taxes....
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
Jones, I didn't mean verbally "smug", I used it like thumbing your nose at the gov't thinking you don't have to pay taxes like the rest of us.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
I was hoping and praying he would be found innocent. One huge way to undercut the current income tax system and force a change in law is the make the law unenforceable via jury nullification. If we citizens who sit on juries do this, it's a huge check on bad law and forces the gov't to redo the law to a more fair and equitable manner.

Another way to force good economic policy and stop waste is to tell Washington they get no convictions on victimless crimes in federal cases until they get their act together. A revolution with out firing a shot or even the need of one band aid.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Wesley was simply being true to his Libertarian/TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party ideals. Can't blame a guy for having the courage of his convictions.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Is this a "black thing" with you moreluck? If not where is the connection to th "Rent's to Damn High Party"?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
'The rents too damn high' guy didn't pay rent. Then you have a tax evader who never bothers to pay taxes....obtuse, but I see the similiarity. Or do you just want to hear that it's a black thing and I'm a racist & a bigot. Everything with you seems to be a race thing. I hate the fact that Nicholas Cage doesn't pay taxes either......but the judge ordered Wesley to be arrested yesterday, not Cage. Cage's time is coming too!!

Oh, and O.J. really did kill 2 people!!
 

Lue C Fur

Evil member
Is this a "black thing" with you moreluck? If not where is the connection to th "Rent's to Damn High Party"?

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wkmac

Well-Known Member
'The rents too damn high' guy didn't pay rent. Then you have a tax evader who never bothers to pay taxes....obtuse, but I see the similiarity. Or do you just want to hear that it's a black thing and I'm a racist & a bigot. Everything with you seems to be a race thing. I hate the fact that Nicholas Cage doesn't pay taxes either......but the judge ordered Wesley to be arrested yesterday, not Cage. Cage's time is coming too!!

Oh, and O.J. really did kill 2 people!!

The State asserted Wesley owed a tax, rent if you will and it actually is in the true historical use of the term rent. Wesley however alleged he owed no such rent and in some elements of tax law he may have had a point and legal standing. The State however has a monopoly of force and took Wesley to another monopoly they hold and that is one of so-called justice and a monopoly also on the rules of justice and what can and can't be used as evidence. And then we are to accept this verdict as not only just but morally true? We are denied in a so-called legal proceding to allow all evidence in which a person acted on and this same evidence could also point to a true good faith position that concluded with an incorrect total of tax liability but it was not arrived at by unlawful intent means. It's the very same thing people do when they make a mistake on a deduction, one taken in good faith and yet the IRS and/or DOJ can block any evidence trail that shows good faith and then said taxpayer is made to look with a blatant intent to violate the law and all the other sheep will baaa and baaa in chorus at the so-called guilty because he dare think he could jump over the fence.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
The State asserted Wesley owed a tax, rent if you will and it actually is in the true historical use of the term rent. Wesley however alleged he owed no such rent and in some elements of tax law he may have had a point and legal standing. The State however has a monopoly of force and took Wesley to another monopoly they hold and that is one of so-called justice and a monopoly also on the rules of justice and what can and can't be used as evidence. And then we are to accept this verdict as not only just but morally true? We are denied in a so-called legal proceding to allow all evidence in which a person acted on and this same evidence could also point to a true good faith position that concluded with an incorrect total of tax liability but it was not arrived at by unlawful intent means. It's the very same thing people do when they make a mistake on a deduction, one taken in good faith and yet the IRS and/or DOJ can block any evidence trail that shows good faith and then said taxpayer is made to look with a blatant intent to violate the law and all the other sheep will baaa and baaa in chorus at the so-called guilty because he dare think he could jump over the fence.
Ok. Now, the courage of one's convictions to hold that stand does not impede the powers that be to steamroll him. Now if the rest of us we're actually to care....
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Ok, Wk. I'm going to surmise that neither the "Rent is to damn high" candidate nor moreluck understood "rent"in the sense of taxation. Therefore, what is the common thread that would have the two possibly linked?
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
OK, now your calling both me and Jimmy McMillan dumb. Too stupid to understand....but, I was the one who started the premise that you really failed to understand. Wkmac 'got it' just fine. So that leads me to the question.....what's with you?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Yes. I continue not to see the point. Unless you would say that Wesley is much like the doctors that don't bother to repay student loans, or Sarah Palin's campaign financed wardrobe would be the same. Those seem more in line just because the dollar amount is so much larger.
 
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