What does the republican party have to do to change its appeal?

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Well, like I said before the election, "if the republicans lose this race, the party is dead as you know it".

Now, there are voices within the party calling for that change while people like Limbaugh, Hannity and such are using their airwaves to REJECT change.

One voice for GOP change is the former RNC leader and George Bush campaign manager KEN MEHLMAN who has ADMITTED to being GAY.

Hiding his homosexuality all his life finally took a toll on him, and he has come out and admitted it publically. Along with that public admission is "HIS" call for the party to accept SAME SEX MARRIAGE. He believes the Party should embrace this concept and stop trying to invade in peoples lives!

Ex-RNC leader Mehlman discloses he’s gay - The Boston Globe

This is great stuff ( excerpt )

"""Mehlman's leadership positions in the GOP came at a time when the party was stepping up its anti-gay activities -- such as the 2006 distribution in West Virginia of literature linking homosexuality to atheism, or the less-than-subtle, coded language in the party's platform ("Attempts to redefine marriage in a single state or city could have serious consequences throughout the country..."). Mehlman said at the time that he could not, as an individual Republican, go against the party consensus. He was aware that Karl Rove, President Bush's chief strategic adviser, had been working with Republicans to make sure that anti-gay initiatives and referenda would appear on November ballots in 2004 and 2006 to help Republicans.""

The party of hypocrites!

Its only a matter of time before KARL ROVE gets OUTED as well. What about Condolezza Rice?

Bush Campaign Chief and Former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman: I'm Gay - Marc Ambinder - The Atlantic

C'mon C9+ers , cant you see yourselves saying this in 2016

"""I hope that we, as a party, would welcome gay and lesbian supporters. I also think there needs to be, in the gay community, robust and bipartisan support [for] marriage rights."""

Does the republican party need to adopt this style of thinking in order to win in the future? or will the party triple down on a failed party platform? 2008 loss, 2002 loss, 2016? should be a loss if things stay the same.

What does the party need to do to change its appeal to the voting public?

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The answer is simple; they need to purge the extreme right wingers, the religious extremists, and the tea party element out of the party and become more libertarian.

I was seriously considering voting for McCain in '08, until he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. The thought of that woman being one 70+ year old heartbeat away from having the launch codes for our nuclear arsenal was enough to make me ill.

They also need to become more tolerant of gay rights, and purge from their ranks any idiot who seriously believes that a woman's uterus somehow "shuts down" in cases of "legitimate rape." Really?
 

trickpony1

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If America, the Democratic party and the Republican party are still in existence 4 years from now I think people will find the Republican party much more appealing.

Assuming, of course, America is not ruled by martial law or;
a dictator and;
the devastation is reversable.
 

wkmac

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If America, the Democratic party and the Republican party are still in existence 4 years from now I think people will find the Republican party much more appealing.

Assuming, of course, America is not ruled by martial law or;
a dictator and;
the devastation is reversable.

But....But.....But.....I thought that's what the last 4 years have been.
 

trickpony1

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But....But.....But.....I thought that's what the last 4 years have been.

Nope. The last four years has just been a warm up. Here's what the next four years could bring:
1) the 28th amendment is completely ignored;
2) the 2nd amendment is attacked and/or eliminated;
3) the obama administration becomes increasingly concerned about their/his image. In the last few days I have seen:
-obama wearing the head dress typically worn by Jews (I forgot the name of it). He couldn't give a flip about the Jewish faith.
-obama "pardoning" a turkey that happens to be white, not your average "run of the mill" wild turkey. Subliminal message?
4) increased interaction with the muslim brotherhood.
5) the emerging of the effects of Agenda 21 (for those who even know what that is).
6) executive orders being signed that the public doesn't have a clue about.
I spoke with a very knowledgeable and wise individual who termed November 6th as a "fatal mistake". I fear he may be right.
 

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Nope. The last four years has just been a warm up. Here's what the next four years could bring:
1) the 28th amendment is completely ignored;
2) the 2nd amendment is attacked and/or eliminated;
3) the obama administration becomes increasingly concerned about their/his image. In the last few days I have seen:
-obama wearing the head dress typically worn by Jews (I forgot the name of it). He couldn't give a flip about the Jewish faith.
-obama "pardoning" a turkey that happens to be white, not your average "run of the mill" wild turkey. Subliminal message?
4) increased interaction with the muslim brotherhood.
5) the emerging of the effects of Agenda 21 (for those who even know what that is).
6) executive orders being signed that the public doesn't have a clue about.
I spoke with a very knowledgeable and wise individual who termed November 6th as a "fatal mistake". I fear he may be right.
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wkmac

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Sometimes what one observes as conspiracy theory, the realm of tin foil hats, may seem correct but if one dare begin to just crack the surface, one might realize there may be some merit to some of the claims.

CFR Meeting - Zbigniew Brzezinski Fears The Global Awakening - YouTube

30 years ago the term New World Order was seen as the domain of tin foil hats but now this term is mainstream and the conspiracy theory of the surveillance state? It's a reality.

From Bill Clinton's mentor Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope to Brzezinski's Between Two Ages for starters, there may be a lot fact to conspiracy than fiction. It only seems conspiracy because we're to damn busy wasting time watching X-Factor or some other moronic programming on TV instead of turning that damn thing off and picking up their own books that they know we won't read in the first place.

But it's OK, you can vote every 4 years, go see a movie, watch a football game because you can trust them to see to your best interests. You know, like they've been doing the last 50 years if not more. Feel better now that I've reminded you of that?
 

packageguy

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I think this election came down to the less of 2 evils, They elected somebody they knew, another words they knew what they had, and didn't know what they were getting...........
 

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the republicans have IMO alienated young voters,people of colour,gay and lesbian voters,women voters as well as those who arent religious. It's turned from the Grand Old Party to the Old White Peoples Partyluckovich-ed nov 11.jpg
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wkmac

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the republicans have IMO alienated young voters,people of colour,gay and lesbian voters,women voters as well as those who arent religious. It's turned from the Grand Old Party to the Old White Peoples PartyView attachment 7917

But if you like democrats, is that not something you should celebrate? More important, why point out the error in the hopes they continue to do it again and again?
 

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The answer is simple; they need to purge the extreme right wingers, the religious extremists, and the tea party element out of the party and become more libertarian.

I was seriously considering voting for McCain in '08, until he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. The thought of that woman being one 70+ year old heartbeat away from having the launch codes for our nuclear arsenal was enough to make me ill.

They also need to become more tolerant of gay rights, and purge from their ranks any idiot who seriously believes that a woman's uterus somehow "shuts down" in cases of "legitimate rape." Really?

I would think that if they became more 'humanist', they would do well. Libertarianism is too vague and really not a plan.

I would go one step further, and add ' believe in science' to your last sentence somewhere. Tolerance is great, understanding is greater.

Apart from that, you are spot on!
 

Babagounj

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Since there is a law decree against the RNC from protesting any alleged cheating by the DNC , then now is the time for a new party to rise.
One that is not subject to any past back room deals.
 

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If America, the Democratic party and the Republican party are still in existence 4 years from now I think people will find the Republican party much more appealing.

Assuming, of course, America is not ruled by martial law or;
a dictator and;
the devastation is reversable.

Better get that doomsday bunker ready, sounds like youve swallowed that line of B.S. Hook, line, Sinker & ROD!

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What i really find shocking is how the right wing supporters believe that the GOP is really a god fearing, anti gay political party.

While Melhman is not shocking, he is just another GAY MAN connected to both BUSH and ROVE. JEFF GANNON, was also very close to both BUSH and ROVE, in fact, the BUSH white house credentialed him as a reporter.

Conservative White House Reporter Was Gay Escort

Jeff Gannon was a male prostitute who ran GAY ESCORT websites, and yet, was a frequent guest of the white house.

C'mon people, tell me you guys are not cool with this? Tell me youre ready to move on from the anti gay debates.

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Bush kissing Jeff Gannons head.
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Bush stroking Jeff Gannons head, while Gannon smiles back..
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Jeff Gannons escort photo
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Wonderous, isnt it?

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