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What happens if you don't join the union?
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<blockquote data-quote="SloppyJoes7" data-source="post: 787704" data-attributes="member: 31997"><p>That's a strange arrangement. I'm trying to figure out why there are laws like this governing unions. It seems that if a union has enough members, it would wield power. A company would want to negotiate with it, because it depends on their labor. No legislation would be required.</p><p></p><p>It sounds like lawmakers took power away from unions, (by forcing them to represent and give the same benefits to non-union employees), and then gave them power to represent employees, (whether the individual employees liked it or not). Why take some power away from unions, then give them extra power to make up for it? Wouldn't eliminating both regulations create the same net result?</p><p></p><p>I also think it's strange that a union is forced to cover non-paying employees. I'd think non-union members would get no coverage from the union, but would also therefore be exempt from anything the union has negotiated for. In other words, they pay no dues, but get no part of the collective bargaining. Instead, the law is that they are forced to take the same deals the union/management have negotiated for, for better or for worse. I think it would be more fair to ensure that unions cannot get money from non-members, but as a result, non-members get no representation from the union. This would also allow for multiple unions within a company. Why the law forces a monopoly, I have no idea.</p><p></p><p>The only law that makes sense to me is the right to join or refrain from being in a union. This goes back to freedom of association. I don't think an employee should be forced to join a union to get work. On the other hand, it makes sense to therefore ban companies from firing people because they join a union. You either grant employers the right to fire either one, or take away their power to fire either one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SloppyJoes7, post: 787704, member: 31997"] That's a strange arrangement. I'm trying to figure out why there are laws like this governing unions. It seems that if a union has enough members, it would wield power. A company would want to negotiate with it, because it depends on their labor. No legislation would be required. It sounds like lawmakers took power away from unions, (by forcing them to represent and give the same benefits to non-union employees), and then gave them power to represent employees, (whether the individual employees liked it or not). Why take some power away from unions, then give them extra power to make up for it? Wouldn't eliminating both regulations create the same net result? I also think it's strange that a union is forced to cover non-paying employees. I'd think non-union members would get no coverage from the union, but would also therefore be exempt from anything the union has negotiated for. In other words, they pay no dues, but get no part of the collective bargaining. Instead, the law is that they are forced to take the same deals the union/management have negotiated for, for better or for worse. I think it would be more fair to ensure that unions cannot get money from non-members, but as a result, non-members get no representation from the union. This would also allow for multiple unions within a company. Why the law forces a monopoly, I have no idea. The only law that makes sense to me is the right to join or refrain from being in a union. This goes back to freedom of association. I don't think an employee should be forced to join a union to get work. On the other hand, it makes sense to therefore ban companies from firing people because they join a union. You either grant employers the right to fire either one, or take away their power to fire either one. [/QUOTE]
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