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What happens if you don't join the union?
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<blockquote data-quote="SloppyJoes7" data-source="post: 788252" data-attributes="member: 31997"><p>To dispel any guesswork, I started this thread for two reasons.</p><p>1) To verify that it is illegal to be forced to join a union to work for a company. (This was surprising to me, when I read it a week ago.)</p><p>2) To ask what it's like to be a non-member in UPS. Including treatment and legal rights.</p><p> Now to answer your question: It is true that I am generally against today's unions. <u>I was serious when I said I knew little about the UPS union, and I didn't necessarily dislike it.</u> I still don't know if the UPS is part of a larger union.</p><p></p><p> But why am I <strong><em>inclined </em></strong>against unions? Because I think they tend to harm their members, their companies, their sectors, and the economy. Labor law has already ensured a minimum wage and abolished (unnecessarily) unsafe working conditions. Therefore, that being taken care of, I support the Adam Smith school of classical economics. This is founded on fair competition, which rewards innovation and hard work.</p><p></p><p>From what I've read and heard, unions tend to make seniority more important than performance, (trying to ensure all are treated equally). They make training and experience more important than ability or work ethic. These systems tend to reward laziness, and punish those who are exceptional in ability or performance. It makes it difficult to fire the incompetent, and illegal to quickly promote the extraordinary.</p><p></p><p>Now, if people want to unionize, that's their right. I just think they do it at their own peril. It only becomes a <strong>real </strong>problem, however, when unions create/exist in monopolies. Monopolies (such as the federal government and natural monopolies) should not allow unions, or such unions must be tightly regulated. (This is why it was made illegal for federal unions to go on strike.) If you have an oligopoly, and every company is unionized, you've essentially allowed unions to have a monopoly within an entire sector.</p><p></p><p>In short, I think unions generally are bad for the economy and workforce in general.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SloppyJoes7, post: 788252, member: 31997"] To dispel any guesswork, I started this thread for two reasons. 1) To verify that it is illegal to be forced to join a union to work for a company. (This was surprising to me, when I read it a week ago.) 2) To ask what it's like to be a non-member in UPS. Including treatment and legal rights. Now to answer your question: It is true that I am generally against today's unions. [U]I was serious when I said I knew little about the UPS union, and I didn't necessarily dislike it.[/U] I still don't know if the UPS is part of a larger union. But why am I [B][I]inclined [/I][/B]against unions? Because I think they tend to harm their members, their companies, their sectors, and the economy. Labor law has already ensured a minimum wage and abolished (unnecessarily) unsafe working conditions. Therefore, that being taken care of, I support the Adam Smith school of classical economics. This is founded on fair competition, which rewards innovation and hard work. From what I've read and heard, unions tend to make seniority more important than performance, (trying to ensure all are treated equally). They make training and experience more important than ability or work ethic. These systems tend to reward laziness, and punish those who are exceptional in ability or performance. It makes it difficult to fire the incompetent, and illegal to quickly promote the extraordinary. Now, if people want to unionize, that's their right. I just think they do it at their own peril. It only becomes a [B]real [/B]problem, however, when unions create/exist in monopolies. Monopolies (such as the federal government and natural monopolies) should not allow unions, or such unions must be tightly regulated. (This is why it was made illegal for federal unions to go on strike.) If you have an oligopoly, and every company is unionized, you've essentially allowed unions to have a monopoly within an entire sector. In short, I think unions generally are bad for the economy and workforce in general. [/QUOTE]
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