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<blockquote data-quote="Local804guy4life" data-source="post: 793450" data-attributes="member: 31217"><p>Joining the union is a must at UPS. UPS regularly breaks every labor law under the sun with their management people. They reserve the worst treatment for what they call "Full - Time supervisors". The part time supervisors don't get it as bad and actually have something called PTRS which records their time and compensates them for it somewhat. But promotions are few and far between for them. And when and if they do get promoted it could take years and they are in store for a lifetime of abuse and pain. They abuse the piss out of their full-time management people. Let me cite some examples. </p><p> </p><p>The Full time supervisors in my building the Nassau Hub work at least 12 hours a day, sometimes more. They are salary employees so they don't get any over-time. The manager openly belittles them on the radio and in person. Sometimes he even goes on the loud speaker so the entire building can hear it. I saw him openly screaming at a deaf part time supervisor for not answering the radio right away. Little did he know his hearing aid batteries weren't working properly. And I've heard it even gets worse during the management meetings. But in the interest of being fair I can only report what I have actually witnessed. I know I have seen three full time supervisors quit in the last five months because of the brutal working conditions. Also, a manager is still out going on four months now because of some work related health issue. With this economy that says a lot. The other full time supervisors with the exception of one(some young punk kid who is a compulsive liar) look like stressed out zombies. Old employees who have left told me the full time staff are all on stress medication and under a doctors care for what takes place. Does this sound like a place you want to work without protection? </p><p> </p><p>This is not a union vs management argument. This is a quality of life issue. And what UPS does should be exploited. Sure in my building it's probably worse then anywhere else, but not by much. Rumor has it our manager is the biggest snake in the business. He tries to con us out of legit grievances, put the building on break to early, and deny us early start time and over-time pay. And then has the nerve to complain when our delegate comes in and raises hell. He then cries that the delegate doesn't talk to people the right way. He's not allowed to but the Operations manager who runs the entire district is allowed to threaten, harass, and belittle his own people. That's ok. It's a joke. From what I hear the Op's manager who is running the district is the second coming of Saddam Hussein. He will probably be featured on 60 minutes sometime in the very near future. </p><p> </p><p>If this is the life you want go into management............ Good Luck. I'm not anti- management, I know a lot of good management people. I also know a lot of good people who were tricked and conned into going into management and now regret it. So this is why I take the time to explain what's really behind that UPS brown shield. And maybe one day it will be on the news. I encourage anyone and everyone who has a horror story or has witnessed one to post it on here. The truth should be known.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Local804guy4life, post: 793450, member: 31217"] Joining the union is a must at UPS. UPS regularly breaks every labor law under the sun with their management people. They reserve the worst treatment for what they call "Full - Time supervisors". The part time supervisors don't get it as bad and actually have something called PTRS which records their time and compensates them for it somewhat. But promotions are few and far between for them. And when and if they do get promoted it could take years and they are in store for a lifetime of abuse and pain. They abuse the piss out of their full-time management people. Let me cite some examples. The Full time supervisors in my building the Nassau Hub work at least 12 hours a day, sometimes more. They are salary employees so they don't get any over-time. The manager openly belittles them on the radio and in person. Sometimes he even goes on the loud speaker so the entire building can hear it. I saw him openly screaming at a deaf part time supervisor for not answering the radio right away. Little did he know his hearing aid batteries weren't working properly. And I've heard it even gets worse during the management meetings. But in the interest of being fair I can only report what I have actually witnessed. I know I have seen three full time supervisors quit in the last five months because of the brutal working conditions. Also, a manager is still out going on four months now because of some work related health issue. With this economy that says a lot. The other full time supervisors with the exception of one(some young punk kid who is a compulsive liar) look like stressed out zombies. Old employees who have left told me the full time staff are all on stress medication and under a doctors care for what takes place. Does this sound like a place you want to work without protection? This is not a union vs management argument. This is a quality of life issue. And what UPS does should be exploited. Sure in my building it's probably worse then anywhere else, but not by much. Rumor has it our manager is the biggest snake in the business. He tries to con us out of legit grievances, put the building on break to early, and deny us early start time and over-time pay. And then has the nerve to complain when our delegate comes in and raises hell. He then cries that the delegate doesn't talk to people the right way. He's not allowed to but the Operations manager who runs the entire district is allowed to threaten, harass, and belittle his own people. That's ok. It's a joke. From what I hear the Op's manager who is running the district is the second coming of Saddam Hussein. He will probably be featured on 60 minutes sometime in the very near future. If this is the life you want go into management............ Good Luck. I'm not anti- management, I know a lot of good management people. I also know a lot of good people who were tricked and conned into going into management and now regret it. So this is why I take the time to explain what's really behind that UPS brown shield. And maybe one day it will be on the news. I encourage anyone and everyone who has a horror story or has witnessed one to post it on here. The truth should be known. [/QUOTE]
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