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<blockquote data-quote="SloppyJoes7" data-source="post: 795802" data-attributes="member: 31997"><p>This may be somewhat true. However, while markets allow for differences in the short term, the long term is a different matter. One competitor cannot provide superior benefits while its opposition does not, in the long term.</p><p></p><p>A point I made earlier was that unions often promise benefits that, in the long term, they cannot actually afford. Of what do I speak? Retirement plans, usually. I've seen many pensions go under, become unfunded, go broke, etc. In every case that comes to mind, it was a union-promised pension.</p><p></p><p>Now, in some of these cases, the government bailed out the pension plans. So, in those particular cases, yes, the union members got huge pensions, while others did not. And, the non-union workers actually got to fund those people's pensions. How's that for fairness and equality?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, imbalance also happens if a company does extremely well. Again, this tends to not last very long. For example, Starbucks gave full benefits to all part-time employees. I know people who worked there, and the pay/benefits were fantastic. And then, a couple years after, the CEO stated that benefits for part-timers was soon going to be "unaffordable" for the company. Sure enough, Starbucks' massive growth slowed down shortly thereafter, and some stores even closed. The market always adjusts, and thing even out. (As long as the government stays out of it, that is.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SloppyJoes7, post: 795802, member: 31997"] This may be somewhat true. However, while markets allow for differences in the short term, the long term is a different matter. One competitor cannot provide superior benefits while its opposition does not, in the long term. A point I made earlier was that unions often promise benefits that, in the long term, they cannot actually afford. Of what do I speak? Retirement plans, usually. I've seen many pensions go under, become unfunded, go broke, etc. In every case that comes to mind, it was a union-promised pension. Now, in some of these cases, the government bailed out the pension plans. So, in those particular cases, yes, the union members got huge pensions, while others did not. And, the non-union workers actually got to fund those people's pensions. How's that for fairness and equality? Anyway, imbalance also happens if a company does extremely well. Again, this tends to not last very long. For example, Starbucks gave full benefits to all part-time employees. I know people who worked there, and the pay/benefits were fantastic. And then, a couple years after, the CEO stated that benefits for part-timers was soon going to be "unaffordable" for the company. Sure enough, Starbucks' massive growth slowed down shortly thereafter, and some stores even closed. The market always adjusts, and thing even out. (As long as the government stays out of it, that is.) [/QUOTE]
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