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What is the UPS end game with the current health care proposal?
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<blockquote data-quote="beentheredonethat" data-source="post: 1094386" data-attributes="member: 4886"><p>First, my question is why the teamsters aren't trying to enforce the 22.3 to the extent they struck for 22.3? You really didn't answer that except to say lack of information... So I'll give you an I for INcomplete answer. Try again..</p><p></p><p>However, I'll answer your question. The premise of your question is wrong (in my opinion).. I don't believe UPS "hates" the union. What UPS is seeing and trying to remedy is a workforce that is extremely well paid with costly benefits and we are competing against competition with much lower hourly pay and their benefits if any are very low cost compared to UPS. UPS realizes in the long term they can't have compensation so much higher then the competition. The union has been saying for decades, that they will organize FDX, but they have failed to do so. </p><p>Again, I know people don't trust me because I'm in mgmt. Go to a financial advisor... ask them to make the assumption that UPS continues free health care for our organized labor, and continues to pay the highest pay in the industry. Also assume FDX continues along the way they have been, no union, low pay rates, independent contract model, lower taxes due to it. Ask them if all stays the same, how will UPS do and compare it to how FDX will do. I'm willing to bet, most financial advisors will say that FDX will continue to win market share from UPS and eventually be the dominant carrier in the US. Now ask the same financial advisor, if UPS starts reigning in the cost by sharing HW cost with the workers, keeping a check on wage increases etc. So that the gap of costs doesn't increase, then ask the financial advisor about UPS vs FDX. I'm willing to bet the financial advisor will tell you this will give UPS a better chance of staying the dominant carrier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beentheredonethat, post: 1094386, member: 4886"] First, my question is why the teamsters aren't trying to enforce the 22.3 to the extent they struck for 22.3? You really didn't answer that except to say lack of information... So I'll give you an I for INcomplete answer. Try again.. However, I'll answer your question. The premise of your question is wrong (in my opinion).. I don't believe UPS "hates" the union. What UPS is seeing and trying to remedy is a workforce that is extremely well paid with costly benefits and we are competing against competition with much lower hourly pay and their benefits if any are very low cost compared to UPS. UPS realizes in the long term they can't have compensation so much higher then the competition. The union has been saying for decades, that they will organize FDX, but they have failed to do so. Again, I know people don't trust me because I'm in mgmt. Go to a financial advisor... ask them to make the assumption that UPS continues free health care for our organized labor, and continues to pay the highest pay in the industry. Also assume FDX continues along the way they have been, no union, low pay rates, independent contract model, lower taxes due to it. Ask them if all stays the same, how will UPS do and compare it to how FDX will do. I'm willing to bet, most financial advisors will say that FDX will continue to win market share from UPS and eventually be the dominant carrier in the US. Now ask the same financial advisor, if UPS starts reigning in the cost by sharing HW cost with the workers, keeping a check on wage increases etc. So that the gap of costs doesn't increase, then ask the financial advisor about UPS vs FDX. I'm willing to bet the financial advisor will tell you this will give UPS a better chance of staying the dominant carrier. [/QUOTE]
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